Another Fake - £1 Coin?

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Not sure why I'm getting all these fake coins lately, but I found this one in my change.


Coin vs Real equivalent


Side view - I'm not a master of photographing, but this is the edge. 'Fake' on the left


Is it fake?
Seems to be fake. You probably get the average number of fakes, but are more attentive to your change than others. Think about starting a collection of fakes made for circulation.
I collect coins and tokens which circulated in Africa from 18th century to 2000. I sell about 7000 illustrated world coins from http://www.avscoins.com.
Quote: AndreySeems to be fake. You probably get the average number of fakes, but are more attentive to your change than others. Think about starting a collection of fakes made for circulation.
Might do that - But for UK the highest coin which is in circulation is £2.. Does not seem worth counterfeiting a coin with such low value, so I guess they are rare.
Quote: WHATEVERR
Quote: AndreySeems to be fake. You probably get the average number of fakes, but are more attentive to your change than others. Think about starting a collection of fakes made for circulation.
Might do that - But for UK the highest coin which is in circulation is £2.. Does not seem worth counterfeiting a coin with such low value, so I guess they are rare.
These are regularly faked coins. They say every one pound in ten coins is a fake in the UK.
Quote: bam777These are regularly faked coins. They say every one pound in ten coins is a fake in the UK.
Damn, did not know that. I wonder how much it costs to counterfeit a £ coin?
Quote: WHATEVERRI wonder how much it costs to counterfeit a £ coin?
Not much.
These "gold" US $50 could be purchased for 30 cents each, if you order 1000 of them.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/1OZ-24K-Gold-Clad-2011-American_977918576.html
UK pounds are a bit more expensive, which is strange, but still well below face value.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Euro-gold-plated-one-pound-uk_1179446458.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/uk-one-pound-dollar-coin-token_1179446414.html
I collect coins and tokens which circulated in Africa from 18th century to 2000. I sell about 7000 illustrated world coins from http://www.avscoins.com.
I've seen a great deal of those "tokens" on alibaba. So when does a "novelty token" become an illegal fake?

Following on from the original post, just reading the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 it seems that if you have a fake, and you know it is a fake, then it is illegal to pass it on, section 15(2), or even to keep it, section 16(2).

I have a number of fake £1 coins, and have no intention of trying to pass them on as genuine, but I keep them because some are just so ridiculously fake that they're quite funny.
http://www.facebook.com/NumismaticsUK
I'm not an expert in any kind of coins, but I reckon I'm good at research and will do my best to help. Feel free to tell me my identifications/valuations/gradings are wrong. It's the only way I'll learn.
Quote: BizzoDoesI've seen a great deal of those "tokens" on alibaba. So when does a "novelty token" become an illegal fake?
When it seeks or intends to deceive.

I have a replica Roman coin. It has stamped on both sides the makers mark, making it clear that it is a reproduction, and not a "fake".

Matt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26632863

This seemed rather apt.
Wow that will be really odd ha !
There was an article in The Telegraph about fake £1 coins two days ago:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/10707540/How-can-I-spot-a-fake-1-coin.html
I have read (could have been on Numista) that fake Pound coins are as little as 30p each. It's not a fantastic markup when you consider the fact you're risking prison.
Welcome to the decline of civilization?
Around 41 million of these coins in circulation according to the BBC...
Quote: WHATEVERRNot sure why I'm getting all these fake coins lately, but I found this one in my change.


Coin vs Real equivalent


Side view - I'm not a master of photographing, but this is the edge. 'Fake' on the left


Is it fake?
this is a pain in the ass  i got at least 35 years of the 38 years of pound coins but i bet at least a third of them are fakes dam shame
WHATEVERR, that is very unusual as fake £1 coins go. I've seen many fake £1 partly through a cash handling job, maybe 100-200 and I've never seen one with that edge, nor in many, many online photos of fake £1 edges. Since all the incuse edge lines are straight it cannot be a genuine, multiply struck edge error, if that were even possible. There are people who will pay good money for a rarer fake like that. I think the Royal Mint survey that says 3% of £1 coins are fake is broadly in the right ballpark. And yes, if you research the subject hard enough it soon becomes evident that after a few years every major 'series' of fakes is discontinued, often if not almost always because the factory is busted. But there is always something new or unusual turning up.
It really is beyond me why there are so many fake pound coins.  Surely the price of producing the fakes would make it almost impractical to make them.

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