1 Cash - Kangxi

47 posts

» Quick access to the last post

kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 18:43 #
Posted: #
I have this coin and I would need help to identify the exact variant.
Weight: 3.97 grams.
Diameter: 27 mm.

If you can please tell me the catalogue number.
Thanks.
eazy.dog
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 723
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 21:00 #
Posted: #
this one? Jiang Ning

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces29153.html
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 21:01 #
Posted: #
Yes, like I thought, but might be a variety?
eazy.dog
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 723
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 21:21 #
Posted: #
No I think this is the right one.


QuoteQing dynasty. Bronze cash of Emperor Kangxi (1661-1722), mint of Jiangning (Nanking)
Kang Xi Tong Bao / Ning in Manchu and Ning in Chinese. 26.5mm, 3.9 grams. Issued 1662-1670.
The mint of Jiangning (Naniking)

Type 1 is comprised of coins with two dots and a nominal weight of 1.4 qian (= 5.22 grams).

This is one of a series of twenty coins known as “poem” coins (shi qian), which, according to folklore, have talismanic qualities when placed together. The coins were put in a specific order in which the mint names formed a “poem.” The poem did not have a particular meaning, but rhymed according to the rules of classical Chinese poetry.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 21:24 #
Posted: #
It's the same. :)
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 22:50 #
Posted: #
Same coin, but there are varieties that aren't listed yet.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 22:51 #
Posted: #
I also have the S-1437 coin.
There are any varieties for this coin?
Or maybe other coin with the same characters?
Thank you both! :love:
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 23:21 #
Posted: #
I'm in school.

In Numista we don't use Sjchoth (however you spell it) numbers because they list varieties differently, so I'm really not sure. I'll look into my book when I get home and identify the variety for you.

If it helps you out yours is open Tong.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 23:22 #
Posted: #
FD2266 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2724.html
I am pretty sure i have this one too , unlike there's another coin identical to this.
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 23:24 #
Posted: #
Show images or I can't help you.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 7 Jun 2013, 23:36 #
Posted: #



I think left one: FD2266, right one: FD2263.
Am I right? :love:
eazy.dog
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 723
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 00:11 #
Posted: #
I am sure you are right.

but from FD2266 exist 2 variations.

FD2266

2.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 00:12 #
Posted: #
Mine seems first no? :love:
eazy.dog
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 723
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 00:14 #
Posted: #
Yes yours is first one, I say just for info  =)
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 00:15 #
Posted: #
Excellent thank you.
Will add more from kangxi:)
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 00:41 #
Posted: #
Okay. Got my book here.

Usually it's the obverse that has the main variations, but yes you're right, it's 2263.

Where do you get these? Kangxi cash aren't very common.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 00:48 #
Posted: #
:)  :)
And all of these are 1 cash right?
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 01:12 #
Posted: #
Uhuh.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 12:06 #
Posted: #
New one:
3.08 grams.
24.5 mm.

Hartill 22.104? 0:)
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 17:23 #
Posted: #
Yeah, for now on give me DH numbers. So much easier to look up.

Yes, that's the one. I was only able to find DH#22.103, so lucky you, you found this one.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 17:24 #
Posted: #
Thank you very much.
So it's this one on Numista: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces19747.html
But please add another line with - different top of "GUANG" - :love:
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 17:32 #
Posted: #
Give me another week. It's not summer yet. 8)

Seriously, HUGE change on China - Empire during the summer.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 17:33 #
Posted: #
Then unlock it please so I can add it.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 18:09 #
Posted: #
Quote: eazy.dogI am sure you are right.

but from FD2266 exist 2 variations.

FD2266

2.
smartonekg could you please add the second variation too? I also have this variation.
Add -different form of "JE" and "ZHE"- on this coin https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2724.html
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 18:30 #
Posted: #
Quote: kommodoreI have this coin and I would need help to identify the exact variant.
Weight: 3.97 grams.
Diameter: 27 mm.

If you can please tell me the catalogue number.
Thanks.
Also I have another coin which looks exactly like 22.119, now this coin(in the quote) seems like a variety because of the ning character has a longer line in the middle.
muralis
Joined: 16 Feb 2013
Posts: 347
Posted: 8 Jun 2013, 23:46 #
Posted: #
I have similar sort of coins, but I am too lazy to find any info about them. here is some examples.

silver addict Latvian
eazy.dog
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 723
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 00:30 #
Posted: #
Quote: muralisbut I am too lazy to find any info about them.
lol... :.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 00:38 #
Posted: #
Ok so I know these coins are h22.123 right?
But are these coins different ?
Or they are absolutely the same?
The left ones have about 4.5 grams, right ones about 3.5 grams.
eazy.dog
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 723
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 00:43 #
Posted: #
For me the same  :.
Hartill 22.123 = 4.72g
I think this is not really important, but maybe I am wrong.
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 07:40 #
Posted: #
Weight doesn't really matter with these coins.

...and Muralis, where did you get those? The one on the bottom is a pretty rare coin, from Xinjiang during the Daoguang era.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
muralis
Joined: 16 Feb 2013
Posts: 347
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 10:33 #
Posted: #
SmartOneKg, I got them in bulk lot of coins, I have more in my fatherland - Latvia- around one kilo I guess.
thanks for the info.
silver addict Latvian
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 11:08 #
Posted: #
So the above coins are absolutely the same?
muralis
Joined: 16 Feb 2013
Posts: 347
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 17:49 #
Posted: #
here is some more, but I am not sure if all of them are coins:

1. 3 of them looks like Japanese 4 Mon,


2. 3rd one looks more like token as coin


3. I did not sleep last night, so my hands shaking- very hard to make good photo : )


4. This one looks like token/ fake- very light and thin.


edit: ups, looks some of my coins are upside down  z|
silver addict Latvian
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 9 Jun 2013, 23:38 #
Posted: #
What about this big coin:
weight: 14.37 grams
diameter: about 36 mm.


I'm pretty sure it's on the page 336 in Hartill catalogue but I can't identify exactly mine.
Help please.
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 07:26 #
Posted: #
Aha Muralis, get some sleep!

Whatever you said about being fake is fake. The Xianfeng and Xuantong coins are tokens. The first three are, like you said, 4 mon.

Kommodore, nice find! It's a Xianfeng 10 cash from Sichuan. This one is DH#22.978, or FD#2550.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 12:02 #
Posted: #
Thanks SmartOne, but why it says there emperor wen zong? I can't even find this emperor.
PS: Now I know it's his tomb name. :)
eazy.dog
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 723
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 12:19 #
Posted: #
Quote: kommodoreTHanks smartone, but why it says there emperor wen zong? can't even find this emperor.
PS: Now i know it's his tomb name:)
Birth Name: Zhu Yi 奕 詝
Temple Name: Wen Zong 文宗
Honor Name: Xian Di 显 帝
Era name: Xian Feng 咸 丰

 :°
fliegendehollander
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
Posts: 492
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 13:32 #
Posted: #
The honour name of Xian Di is already abbreviated, the full is (deep breath)
Xiétiān Yìyùn Zhízhōng Chuímó Màodé Zhènwǔ Shèngxiào Yuāngōng Duānrén Kuānmǐn Zhuāngjiǎn XiǎnDi
協天翊運執中垂謨懋德振武聖孝淵恭端仁寬敏莊儉顯皇帝
Denn alles Fleisch, es ist wie Gras
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 20:58 #
Posted: #
:O
help me with this one please

3.28 grams 25mm
thank you
It's hartil 14.8?
bbybugs Catalogue referee
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
Posts: 793
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 21:37 #
Posted: #
Quote: kommodore
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces20604.html
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 21:38 #
Posted: #
I've seen it but I need the exact variant - thank you.
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 23:01 #
Posted: #
The book should show you the variety of the coin.

It should be a right-upward crescent above the hole. I'm at school, so this is all based on my knowledge from the book.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 23:17 #
Posted: #
I'm pretty sure it's 14.8u in this page no?
http://www.beastcoins.com/China/China.htm
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 23:27 #
Posted: #
It MIGHT be different. Based on what I see, it looks different.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 11 Jun 2013, 20:04 #
Posted: #
So, could you help me please smartone?
With the coin from above
KennyG
Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 5287
Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 02:13 #
Posted: #
If you do coin orientation, it's variety Z.

I'm assuming that you did coin orientation when taking the photos.
Kenny

- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.

Check out my Facebook, Kenneth Gucyski.
kommodore
Joined: 5 Nov 2009
Posts: 3010
Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 05:55 #
Posted: #
I've turned it on the right , I think it's medal orientation my picture.
Reply
Forum »

» Forum policy

Used time zone is UTC+2:00.
Current time is 16:57.