Guatemala: 1 quetzal 2018, 2022 & 2023, km284a, mints?

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I got the 2022 and 2023 in a swap and analyzed them today:

In Numista I found the notion of the mints responsible of minting the coins:

the 2023 according to numista was minted in both Finland and Poland, so I tried to find anything pointing to the different mints.

I made this documentation of the facts I found:

Tomorrow I'll spend some more time on the km284a, but also on the km284, since the SCWC contains this, which might very well be connected to the two different mints (thin and thick letters):

In numista we only have this:

I have all the coins in my collection, and I'll scan and compare them to see if my theory might hold?

33° Celsius in Paris without clim, so it's time to drink something cold and try to relax.

Sjoelund

 

33° Celsius in Paris without clim, so it's time to drink something cold and try to relax.

Is that why you didn't add the link of the coin page to your post, the advice you always give to others?

Sure, no it's because I've now passed into the 80'es 🤗

Hey Ole, just a few remarks.

- I have a lot of these coins from Guatemala and I absolutely don't believe in the dark/bright look because of the difference in Mint. These brass plated steel coins have the tendency of discoloring very quickly, because of the composition, not because of the Mint. Look at your 2023 coin: for a 2023 coin it really looks ugly.

- I know the bold/fine thing is your absolute pet peeve (I hope this is the right translation of the Dutch word “stokpaardje” because in English pet peeve has a negative connotation, something annoying or something you're complaining about a lot but I mean it like this, a pet peeve, figuratively speaking, is a subject someone is fond of and brings up again and again. It is a favorite pastime, and that's the bold/fine thing certainly for you). Unfortunately (and I know my eyes aren't that well anymore) I can't see any difference between your 2018 and 2022 coin (concerning bold/fine):

What I do see (besides the P touching/not touching a bead) is the distance between the “D” and the other lettering like “Paz” to the beads. The question is, are these differences because of the different Mint or because of the different date. As a varieties collector, you know especially Guatemala has the tendency of regularly making minor differences within a type. KM#'s 276, 277 and 278 all have 6 different subnumbers within 1 type. So we should focus on the 2023 coins because these are made both by Mint of Finland and Mint of Poland. If we can discover a difference there than we know it's because of the Mint and not because of the date.

I've got 33 of the 2023 coins. I'll try to make time today to study them and see if I can find a difference.

Let me know if you find out something about the KM# 248. I have a lot of them too:

This morning I  scanned all my one quetzal coins from 1999 to now. They all should have same dies. It's only the alloy which changes. I'll specially look into the placements of letters towards beads.

Sjoelund

Sure, no it's because I've now passed into the 80'es 🤗

Sorry, I've forgotten to congratulate you with your new front door. Hopefully it's not the last one and you still can stay with us here on Numista for a long time.

By the way, didn't check my quetzals 2023 yet. Hopefully today.

Here are my scans of the 1 quetzals

This afternoon's work, if my conclusions are right or not, I don't know?

 P midl Bold  > P mid Bold 

Fourth picture [2000 right side] 

:) 

 That picture is unchanged for the fourth line > 

 with extra l letter.  :) 

I forgot to do the “save as” jpg, I made only the change in the ppt!!

 OK - but still there … 

Maybe better now, but what about the mints, which is really the important question?