Request to Change a Year-Bound Set to Allow Users to Select a Year

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This message aims at: requesting the modification of a coin in the catalogue

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I'm a new user, so I apologize ahead of time for any missteps in etiquette (or otherwise). I checked that “This message aims at: ‘requesting the modification of a coin in the catalog'" because it seemed to be the closest match to my request, which is to modify a set in the catalog. I originally made this request through the “Modify or add data on this page” link on the catalog page, and the reviewing user let me know this is outside the scope of that method but suggested I bring it to the forum.

 

There is currently a listing for the 1971 Eisenhower Uncirculated Silver Dollar Set [N#S3859]. This set was released in 1971, 1972, 1973, and 1974 [see this listing on The Coin Vault and this listing on Collectors' Alliance) . I could not find listing(s) on Numista for years 1972–1974. The 1971 listing includes the silver dollar itself [N#15202] and a blue token [N#142220]. 

 

Because of the nature of the way adding a set to inventory works, the current choices (if one has a set from more than one year) are to not add the set for any year other than 1971, have misattributed coins in the primary coin listing [N#15202], or have excess coins in the primary coin listing [N#15202].

 

I, admittedly, don't know the technological limitations/conventions of the site, so my specific proposal to remedy this may not actually be possible. If it's not, I'd request that listings for the 1972–1974 be added (but I don't think this is the best solution.) My primary proposal is that the set listing [N#S3859] be renamed “Eisenhower Uncirculated Silver Dollar Set." Then, while every set should still include the token [N#142220], the user should be able to select whether their set is from 1971 (with a 1971-S [PCGS# 7408] coin), 1972 (with a 1972-S [PCGS# 7411] coin), 1973 (with a 1973-S [PCGS# 7417] coin), or 1974 (with a 1974-S [PCGS# 7417] coin).

 

Because it is common to still have the sealed coin + token duo though not the blue envelope, ideally there would be a way to select whether your set still has the envelope without adding the envelope as a separate inventory item (maybe there could be two “variants” of the coin from each year, but the variant would indicate whether the envelope is still present, rather than anything about the coin itself?).

 

I'm not always confident I've explained things like this well via text, so here is a visual example of what I'm envisioning the page would look like:

Post-modification example

My intention is that adding, say, “1972 (With Envelope)” to your collection would populate one blue token on its primary page and a 1972-S Eisenhower Silver Dollar (non-proof, non-variant) on its primary page. [Currently, because 1971 is the only linked coin, the token is added in this manner, and a 1971-S (non-proof, non-variant) is added in this manner.] I love the idea that adding a set automatically adds all the individual coins/tokens to your inventory; I just want to make sure that the proper year(s) are able to be indicated.

 

I preemptively appreciate any assistance and your patience with a new user!

I'll start trying to answer your questions.

1. Selecting the modification of a coin tag for the post is the best choice until a modification of a set tag is created.

2. Currently it is impossible to create a set with multiple choices.  Similar things have been suggested but have not happened.

3. The only way for you to have sets with the other years is for you to create them if they don't exist. It's a very easy process.

4. A suggestion to change how sets are allowed should be posted in the Numista website forum.  It's not something the Admins here can accomplish.

 

Welcome to Numista!

rsirian1

I'll start trying to answer your questions.

1. Selecting the modification of a coin tag for the post is the best choice until a modification of a set tag is created.

2. Currently it is impossible to create a set with multiple choices.  Similar things have been suggested but have not happened.

3. The only way for you to have sets with the other years is for you to create them if they don't exist. It's a very easy process.

4. A suggestion to change how sets are allowed should be posted in the Numista website forum.  It's not something the Admins here can accomplish.

 

Welcome to Numista!

Thank you for responding so quickly and clearly.

 

I'm working on a (decently large) sorting and cataloging project for someone else, so this has very much been a process requiring humility. Numista has been absolutely invaluable, and I love how much I've been able to learn about numismatics in the course of what I thought was a simple organizational endeavor!

 

I hope those with the ability/authority will make the change someday. There are even times I've found it would be helpful within a single set. For example, The American Historic Society's “137 Years of U.S. Pennies” set has one of each Lincoln penny design (including a shellcase cent) up through the date of the set's release (1997). Aside from the Steel Cent, which was only minted for one year, the other pennies are of random years (and mints!). It would be excellent for things like Whitman Coin Collection Folders, as well. I'd love to be able to add a specific folder in the same way as I would a set, then indicate which slots are filled and have that inventory (and its location as being in the folder) reflected on the primary page for the coin. I do what I can to make note, but it would still be a great addition (in my extremely novice opinion).

 

Double-thanks for letting me know all of this without exasperation or condescension. It reflects well on the community (and on you, of course!).

You're welcome.  As far as sets, they are relatively new to Numista and things like Guidelines and a Search function are still being developed.  One of the “rules” is only Mint/Issuer sets are allowed so 3rd party sets like Whitman folders aren't allowed. Maybe someday but not now. 

rsirian1

One of the “rules” is only Mint/Issuer sets are allowed so 3rd party sets like Whitman folders aren't allowed.

I'm really glad you mentioned this. I plan to refine my suggestion to post in the forum you referred me to, and I'm grateful to know that I should note that aspect separately, use language other than “set" regarding things like Whitman folders, and phrase it more along the lines of future utility rather than (necessarily) contemporaneous implementation with my primary suggestion. The more my suggestion reflects (and respects) the rules as they currently exist, the better, I'd think.

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