Fake or real?

I am referring to this page and the main photos. The ones from Stacks Bowers looks odd to me. Mainly the lips but there are many other differences of the two auctions.

4 Reales - Charles III (Ascension of Charles III to the throne) - Florida (Spanish) – Numista

Actual auction page

Florida. Proclamation 4 Reales, 1760. | Stacks Bowers

I got a request to add another auction to this "one of a kind" and it is much different from the other listing.

1760 Florida Proclamation 4 Reales, Cast Silver, Herrera-56, Grove | Lot #3009 | Heritage Auctions

2 different varieties? Weight is different on each one too.

I think the Heritage Auction example is a contemporary cast copy of the die struck medal depicted in the Stack Bowers pictures.

Looks to me like a “Spanish” restauration was done to it … 
 

I know nothing about these coins, but I'm pretty sure they cannot be 2 varieties of the same coin
 

BramVB

I know nothing about these coins, but I'm pretty sure they cannot be 2 varieties of the same coin

My thoughts too, which is why I was looking for assistance here.

Stack's Bowers seems to have sold that piece before

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-FRNOJ/florida-proclamation-4-reales-1760

They also seem to consider it as the same type … strange …

https://archive.stacksbowers.com/?q=6ab2f563-1ee9-4616-9d7c-c2d0b73db1ff

I had thought that this would get more comment.

I had thought that this would get more comment.

I had thought that this would get more comment.

I had thought that this would get more comment.

Now it does 😉

@JLHare i think you might have some page open that is refreshing every few hours (or you started spamming your own post 😮)

i wonder how I did that? Mainly so I don’t do it again.