These Indian coins are NOT dated 2025

These coins may have been issued in 2025 but they are dated 2024

N#464851

N#462076

N#465155

As the comments make clear, these were released in 2025. While they are not explicitly DATED 2025, their year of issue is 2025, and therefore they are correctly cataloged.

The yearline dates are for the year an object was manufactured, not necessary the same with the year it was issued.
For many objects it is not known or clear on which specific point in time they were made and the year depicted on them is used.
 

If these coins were made in 2024 and carry the date 2024 they should also be listed as 2024. The release date has it's own field and can be specified down to the day if known.

Idolenz

The yearline dates are for the year an object was manufactured, not necessary the same with the year it was issued.
For many objects it is not known or clear on which specific point in time they were made and the year depicted on them is used.
 

If these coins were made in 2024 and carry the date 2024 they should also be listed as 2024. The release date has it's own field and can be specified down to the day if known.

That's the logic way to do it, the date on the coin is the one counting!

Per the guidelines, 

Note that the year written on the coin may represent the year of minting, the year of issue, or a different date altogether. If the year of minting is different from the year written on the coin, record the minting year in the Gregorian or Julian calendar using the “Change date” override feature. You may use this feature to record a range of years

The problem is that any sane human being with coin is hand and without specific knowledge of the coin searching for the coin in the catalog would search country, denomination and year on the coin and conclude it wasn't in the catalog.  Why have a guideline that essentially breaks the search function?

The ‘Year’ field is the date on the coin.

The ‘Gregorian date’ is the year of issue.

Therefore these coins are not catalogued correctly!!

2024 (2025) is how they should appear.

yensen1877

The ‘Year’ field is the date on the coin.

 

The ‘Gregorian date’ is the year of issue.

 

Therefore these coins are not catalogued correctly!!

 

2024 (2025) is how they should appear.

No. I gave you the guidelines for the Year field. It's quite clear, the Year field is the date of minting, not the date on the coin.  I already expressed my opinion that the guidelines can cause problems.

It's quite clear, the Year field is the date of minting, not the date on the coin.  I already expressed my opinion that the guidelines can cause problems.

Sorry but you are mistaken

An excellent example is the Maria Theresia thaler, dated 1780 restruck and issued forever after:

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I can't be mistaken. I wasn't stating my opinion, I copied word for word the guidelines. Any example you show that you feel violates the guidelines does not prove what I said was wrong but only says the guidelines are wrong. Attack the guidelines, do not attack me, I agree with you!

Not attacking anyone: that is the way the search engine works!!!

Pictures won't show in full size but the point I am trying to make is there is a huge difference between the “year” field on the search page and the “year” field on the coin page which will cause problems for those users who do not understand exactly what these fields actually mean.

The “Year” field on the coin details page combines two fields on the search page if they are not the same by using brackets.  The year in brackets is the Gregorian year of issue or date range (which does not necessarily include every individual year in that date range)   which corresponds to “Gregorian date” on the search page while the year not in brackets is the date on the coin in whatever calendar the country of issue used at the time which corresponds to the “year” field on the search page.  All is fine if the date on the coin is the same as the Gregorian year of issue - no brackets are required.

If you are looking for a coin issued in 1835 but not dated 1835 you must enter the date into the “Gregorian Date” field NOT the “Year” field.

1834 (1835-1850) means the coin is dated 1834 but issued in 1835 and 1850 and maybe some years in between.

So getting back to the point of this thread those Indian coins should be listed as 2024 (2025) i.e. dated 2024 and issued in 2025.

If on the coin page it says “Year 2025”  - this indicates the coin is both dated and issued in 2025!

Why don't I just put in a modification request?  Because once a user has added a particular coin to their collection the date cannot be changed by the likes of me… it requires a higher level of authority.

Hello,

I hope to introduce some clarity on this.

Since we have “issued date” field now, all previous cases, where we used date override to show that the item was issued in different year than it was made are now subject to be changed.

We will continue to use date override to change missmatching calendars or handle items with frozen dates.

I will amend those coins in question now.

Best regards,

Jarek

yensen1877

 

Let me help you with the pictures you were trying to post so others may see.

So we'll not have the Gregorian date of the coin? I prefer not to have the date of issue, but the Gregorian date on the coin, since what is shown can only be for a coin issued in only ONE year, right?

I am not sure what you mean? Can you give me an example?

If you have several years of the same type, the issue date is just NOT relevant!?

You mean for example that coin has:

Yearline dated 1990 that was issued in 1990

Yearline dated 2000 that was issued only in 2010?