gillesdebilde2003
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 10:21
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Hello, can someone help me with identification of below coins although I think it will be almost impossible due to their poor condition
Here are the data of the coins:
Left: weight 11.2g/ dia. 26.1 mm/ thickness 2.9mm
Middle: 4.28g/ 24.7 mm/ 1.5mm
Right: 2.85g/ 21.9mm/ 1.1mm
I appreciate if at least one will be identified (i have some suggestions about Stanisław II Augustus or August III Sas but no more)
Thank you
Radek
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 10:33
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Two rulers that you listed are from 18th century. Country that they ruled did not exist in 19th century.
N#29559 Copper • 11.69 g • ⌀ 26 mm
you might remove size from filters as some entries do not have size set.
ZacUK
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 10:37
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The middle coin is easy - there was one on here a few days ago.
Will try to find a link. Meantime, pictures cropped >
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ZacUK
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 10:51
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gillesdebilde2003
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 10:56
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Yes these two coins are for sure you mentioned, thank you
ZacUK
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 11:45
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Coin 3 - that earlier reply gave a link, which does look like it -
but it is too large at 11.69 g • ⌀ 26 mm
Looking for > 2.85g/ 21.9mm/ 1.1mm
Portrait right // Crowned coat of arms within a wreath
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gillesdebilde2003
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 11:51
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Have checked again data i gave and they are correct
ZacUK
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 12:17
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That is what I thought, and as that member mentioned some
coins from there do not have measurements. Such as this random example
N#262194
which seems likely as the O on the right is just below where
the nose points, and on left may not be I but T with S before it.
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tokul
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 12:43
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ZacUK
That is what I thought, and as that member mentioned some
coins from there do not have measurements. Such as this random example
N#262194
which seems likely as the O on the right is just below where
the nose points, and on left may not be I but T with S before it.
This one is also not type classified and is probably a pattern/trial. 2 zlotych aka Dwuzłotówka (KM 186.2) was silver and around 30 mm diameter.
https://numismaster.com/MC_70309 Krauze Poland Pn111 is that Numista #262194
We probably can rule out 1733-63 August III Sas as dude is in different weight category.
gillesdebilde2003
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 16:44
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ZacUK
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 17:12
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Can you also re-take individual pictures for the first coin?
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Romcian
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 17:16
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third one kinda looks like this, the posture, the long hair and the coat of arms match for me it clearly matches the “O” letter than was mentioned earlier, and the pattern leaves on the bottom of COA also match
ZacUK
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Posted: 7 Sep 2025, 17:38
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gillesdebilde2003
If that is rotated 90 degrees left, there is 77 year [1777] on top left - it looks like.
[From that earlier link I gave] N#262194
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gillesdebilde2003
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Posted: 10 Sep 2025, 17:17
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I checked with the best available camera and am 100% sure that right coin is a 1 grossus as below:
N#26929
so this is what Romcian suggested
The dimensions and weight are not the same but at least similar as mentioned on Numista catalogue
Thank you all for your efforts to help me
Status changed to Solved
(gillesdebilde2003 , 10 Sep 2025, 17:18)
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