Previous silly idea I had now resolved

Removed to stop people commenting about my original post.

I did not know we had a language button - my bad

While some posts are written in a language other than English on the English site, the expansion of the languages on Numista has created the problem you are complaining about. Here is an example:

I went to the Portuguese Numista site and created a post. 

It was written in Portuguese because it was on the Portuguese site, of course. Guess what? It is one of the posts you're complaining about on the English site. You can find it here (on the English site):

 https://en.numista.com/forum/topic165414.html

The same happens on the Italian, Russian and Netherlands sites.

First of all it was like 1 in the morning our time when I did it and its now 8.45am.

Second of all I had no idea of the translate button until 5 minutes ago.

So i rest my case..

Hopefully matter is cleared up now.

Moneytane

Bit annoyed many posts and threads lately in Coin information and Free Discussion are in foreign languages. Just a recent sweep of the boards saw threads in Portuguese or Spannish and some kind of Latvian or Baltic language. Most are by sub 10 post and mostly single post members. Perhaps a welcome email that directs all new members including the treasure hunter and value seekers to not use one word descriptions or speak an obscure language.

 

Can we insist all people post in the languages on this site either English (Much preferred) or French.

 

Some may think its xenophobic - but we only learn English at school in our country - New Zealand and languages are optional. Even then they usually only teach one more and its usually Maori, French, Japanese or German - not Lithuanian or Spannish.

Hello Moneytane, how are you?

First, I think it's important to point out the main information. Numista is for collectors from all over the world. And the world is extremely diverse.

Many no longer speak more than one language and have only their native language to use. So simply trying to force others who haven't even had the chance to learn your language it is indeed rude and xenophobic.

We live in a digital world. Not only does the website itself have a function to translate forum messages, but there are computer and mobile browsers with built-in translation functions as well.

Well, addressing your topic about languages. As our friend rsirian1 mentioned, the website has translated versions to cover more countries, and the international forum is shared with everyone. Therefore, a variety of languages is expected.

So now I have the right to complain that almost 98% of the forum is in english, even though I access it through the portuguese version? I only had the chance to know the site because it appeared in portuguese for me.

First of all, don't insult my name I don't take money. Say I take money, that is slander and I have reported you.

Second of all this is BEFORE I knew about the language button.

Third of all as for languages, English is not my first language and about diverse places - well my own language is Te Reo Maori, a language unknown outside New Zealand and indigenous to the Maori people. Its so small and obscure and rated so poorly by Eurocentric nations and the internet, it will be 2134 before we have Numista Te Reo Maori. I wasn't taught Te Reo as it was the language I spoke growing up, I learnt English at school as it was beaten into me by colonialist teachers who saw Maori as a dead language and not useful for our “White” country. Sadly I don't speak as much Maori as I used too, as most of my Maori family are dead now and I have been around only English speakers, but I still consider Te Reo my first language.

But I don't push it, because I know realistically Te Reo Maori is irrelevant outside of Aotearoa and te Moana nui a kiwa (NZ and Pacific Island nations). I don't complain about racism because of it either, because I got real and realised if I posted exclusively in Maori on my rorohiko and my korero about moni tawhito i roto nga reo Maori, kaore au e mohia nga tangata ako moni (If I just used my computer to talk about old coins in Maori, no one coin collector would understand). So as a courtesy I use Te Reo Pakeha (English language).

Before you start insulting people's names and their ideas, you dig a little deeper and don't just assume they are some snow white ugly racist. Comprende senor?

And yes Te Reo Maori is my reo tuatahi, Te Reo Pakeha, reo tuarua! (I speak Maori first, English second).

I also find it funny you are from Londrina, clearly a Portuguese name for London, England - the language you so despise.

Moneytane

First of all, don't insult my name I don't take money. Say I take money, that is slander and I have reported you.

 

Second of all this is BEFORE I knew about the language button.

 

Third of all as for languages, English is not my first language and about diverse places - well my own language is Te Reo Maori, a language unknown outside New Zealand and indigenous to the Maori people. Its so small and obscure and rated so poorly by Eurocentric nations and the internet, it will be 2134 before we have Numista Te Reo Maori. I wasn't taught Te Reo as it was the language I spoke growing up, I learnt English at school as it was beaten into me by colonialist teachers who saw Maori as a dead language and not useful for our “White” country. Sadly I don't speak as much Maori as I used too, as most of my Maori family are dead now and I have been around only English speakers, but I still consider Te Reo my first language.

 

But I don't push it, because I know realistically Te Reo Maori is irrelevant outside of Aotearoa and te Moana nui a kiwa (NZ and Pacific Island nations). I don't complain about racism because of it either, because I got real and realised if I posted exclusively in Maori on my rorohiko and my korero about moni tawhito i roto nga reo Maori, kaore au e mohia nga tangata ako moni (If I just used my computer to talk about old coins in Maori, no one coin collector would understand). So as a courtesy I use Te Reo Pakeha (English language).

 

Before you start insulting people's names and their ideas, you dig a little deeper and don't just assume they are some snow white ugly racist. Comprende senor?

 

And yes Te Reo Maori is my reo tuatahi, Te Reo Pakeha, reo tuarua! (I speak Maori first, English second).

 

I also find it funny you are from Londrina, clearly a Portuguese name for London, England - the language you so despise.

Sorry for misspelling your nickname, it was my translator, and wasnt my intention to insult you. My apologies. Have corrected my post too.

The choice of the name "Londrina," which means "little London," its because the city was planned by a company from London and implemented by the state to serve as the capital of the colonization area and the headquarters of the company's real estate management in northern of the Paraná state.

So yes, a city name that represents exactly the exploitation of colonies over native peoples, destroying and erasing their entire history.

Before the colonization of Brazil, it is believed that there were more than 1,000 native languages and dialects.

Today, 500 years later, even 200 languages still represents a large number. 

In Brazil, the native population doesn't even reach 1% (approximately 1.2 million), and of these, the percentage of native speakers is no more than 38%. 

That is, approximately 450,000 inhabitants for more than 200 languages. Tupi-Guarani is the native language with the largest number of speakers, with 34 thousand.

 I am included in this statistic, even though I am part native by my mother greatparents, I don't even have a native surname, and I don't even know my ancestors origins. So yeah, Brazils history its just about 500 years of exploration of people just for pure greed and supremacy.

Well explained, I think I can bury the hatchet and move on, not just the last few posts, this whole daft thread caused by me not understanding computer symbols.

Native and Indigenous American languages have always fascinated, so many in South America have been erased by colonialism and its effects. Brazil has suffered very badly, yet some have survived well like many USA and Canada First Nations languages and the Mapuche in neighbouring Argentina and Chile, mainly as I heard these peoples were only really colonised in the late 1800s, where as warmer parts of the Americas were colonised in the 1500s, when colonisers were much worse, less sophisticated, more brutal and greedier than ever.

The Maori language is lucky, as it was only threatened from the mid 1800s, the early 1800s it was written down and commonly spoken by all races, but as colonialism got worse, Maori was restricted to Maori and the whites beat it out of Maori and tried to eliminate it completely. They nearly succeeded, but the language picked up massively in the 1970s with young educated Maori wanting a change to racism and mon culturalism and from the 1980s, Maori was taught again and now is resurging, despite a current government that is extremely racist and trying to stop it. Even the United Nations has seen how racist our new government is, but its expected they will be voted out next year.

How did Google do? 

Generally okay, I should have used mohio, instead of mohia. Mohio means know or knowledge, mohia means to steal or take.

You may have noticed I make a lot of typos. I made 3 just typing that sentence due to poor keyboard skills.

He huatau whakapai ake hei whakauru tāke mo te whakamahinga o tētahi reo kē

Numista translator cannot translate the post above :( And it says it is Indonesian :(

The post above is claimed to be in Maori by Google Translate with a translation of:

An improved idea to include a tax for the use of a foreign language

The problem with that proposal is that every language is considered a foreign language from most countries.

bjherbison

The post above is claimed to be in Maori by Google Translate with a translation of:

An improved idea to include a tax for the use of a foreign language

The problem with that proposal is that every language is considered a foreign language from most countries.

Good point, that is why I show no ire that Maori is not on the list of Numista languages. It has a limited number of speakers and limited relevance outside of Aotearoa/New Zealand. Most world languages would fall into the same trap.

Whereas languages like French, Spanish, German, Mandarin, Hindi, Arabic etc are major world languages spoken in many places and thus need provisions on the internet in a global scale.

Rather a sad topic to be started by a member who, at over 3000 posts, should know better. 

I am sorry for your lack of education.

Google translate generally will enable even those of us with the most meager intelligence to understand posts which are not in our preferred language.

Proposing the exclusion of members who do not have a grasp of your chosen language is a very dim-minded attitude to adopt in a world full of tech which enables inclusivity.

Were we to implement a one language policy, I think, given that Chinese is a far more widely used language than English, perhaps all posts on the forum ought to be required to be in Chinese.

Numismatics is a worldwide hobby which gets on fine without politics.

Hibernia

Rather a sad topic to be started by a member who, at over 3000 posts, should know better. 

I am sorry for your lack of education.

Google translate generally will enable even those of us with the most meager intelligence to understand posts which are not in our preferred language.

Proposing the exclusion of members who do not have a grasp of your chosen language is a very dim-minded attitude to adopt in a world full of tech which enables inclusivity.

Were we to implement a one language policy, I think, given that Chinese is a far more widely used language than English, perhaps all posts on the forum ought to be required to be in Chinese.

Numismatics is a worldwide hobby which gets on fine without politics.

I have a Master's degree and I already speak a language completely ignored by Numista, yet you have the nerve to call me out over something that happened last week. I admitted my mistake and apologise.

Perhaps you should read the whole thread instead of jumping to harsh conclusions.

I never said exclude anyone who does not speak a preferred language, I said insist upon posts being in French or English on the main forums, excluding people from membership over languages was never on my agenda. Don't put words in my mouth.

Now I know that button is there, I no longer have any issue with languages anyway, but some of you are playing grudge fest 25 for some reason.

Move on, because I have.

On the IT NL PT RU versions they do not yet have the possibility to express themselves in a dedicated forum, let's be sympathetic to them as well as to others.

Moneytane

I never said exclude anyone who does not speak a preferred language, I said insist upon posts being in French or English on the main forums, …

Insistence is exclusion, isn’t it. It reads like exclusion to me.

Having censored your first post, you now feel the need to restate the essence of its content. Your post does not reflect your stated level of education.

You don’t get to pretend that it didn’t happen.
Your first post was quite clear. Now you feel the need to state your qualifications and censor yourself by removing your initial post in the hope of shutting down discussion.

Anyway, good that you have moved on.

And. 

My comment was on your initial post, not on the subsequent thread.

Hibernia

Rather a sad topic to be started by a member who, at over 3000 posts, should know better. 

I am sorry for your lack of education.

Google translate generally will enable even those of us with the most meager intelligence to understand posts which are not in our preferred language.

Proposing the exclusion of members who do not have a grasp of your chosen language is a very dim-minded attitude to adopt in a world full of tech which enables inclusivity.

Were we to implement a one language policy, I think, given that Chinese is a far more widely used language than English, perhaps all posts on the forum ought to be required to be in Chinese.

Numismatics is a worldwide hobby which gets on fine without politics.

You sir, have my deepest respect.

I  would gladly vote for you in any matter.