Two more Greek fractionals to ID

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Here are two Greek silver fractionals I can't identify. I won them tonight so I don't have them in hand but the seller provided the specs in his description:

 

1️⃣

▶️ 0.32g 6.4mm

 

2️⃣

▶️ 0.44g 7.4mm 

 

In case you didn't know, you can click on the images, hold, and turn. For no. 1️⃣ the seller says “bust” to describe the obverse, but makes no attempt at describing no. 2️⃣.

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Hi, these coins are not obvious, the first one, Asia Minor, uncertain, here is your coin

Ref: SNG Kayhan 743

(hemiobol/ obol)

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=11203456

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6205635

 

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8186178

For the 2nd I'm not sure, it seems to me that it's a beetle, compare my link and your coin in hand!

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=14599461

Thanks again very much, tatinos2

 

A beetle (no. 2️⃣) would confirm what I thought. I intentionally didn't say it when I posted to let you or anyone else tell me what you see… It seems to have worked.

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Now that I have it in hand, I think it's a bee. Not too different from this:

 

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/romae_aeternae_numismatics/136/product/ionia_ephesus_silver_hemiobol_bee_top_view__incuse_square_punch_vf/1198861/Default.aspx

 

The left wing is not very obvious, but it's much clearer with the coin in hand.

 

So, probably Ephesus, where the bee was an impostant symbol.

₱o$₮ag€ $₮am₱$ a₹€ mo₹€ £€₲i₮ima₮€ a$ a ƒo₹m oƒ ¢u₹₹€nc¥ ₮ha₦ ₮h€ €₦₮i₹€ "¢oi₦" ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ oƒ ₦au₹u o₹ ₦iu€. ••• £€$ ₮im฿₹€$-₱o$₮€ $o₦₮ ₱£u$ £é₲i₮im€$ €₦ ₮a₦t qu'o฿j€₮$ mo₦é₮ai₹€$ qu€ £a ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ €₦₮iè₹€ d€ «mo₦₦ai€$» d€ ₦au₹u ou d€ ₦iu€.

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