Please advise : https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces849.html [solved]

Hello,
a seller is offering this coin for sale.

And I want to ask what does it mean in the Numista catalog "Tirage avec"?
Is it like issued in the same year, but with a different date?

Thank you

It seems the mintage of both years combined are 2 728 531 pieces.

The thing is, the seller is asking for a fairly high amount.

So it just means that the mintage is listed for both years and that's it.

jeto2

The thing is, the seller is asking for a fairly high amount.

Depending what “fairly high” means it may be reasonable. From NGC:

N#849 

Thank you, I completely forgot to look at this, now the question is whether it is VF or XF. I would say that this coin is VF.

In my opinion, mintage is irrelevant. What matters is recent market results.

Recent auction results from your part of the world: https://www.biddr.com/auctions/savoca/browse?a=5167&l=6325295

https://www.numisbids.com/sale/7629/lot/?lot=7748

Both of these have better eye appeal than the coin in your photos (even if they might grade about the same).

Of course, you need to add 20% auction fee and postage, bringing the “real cost” to something like 60-70 euro.

I also can find 33 examples of this coin for sale on MA-Shops for prices ranging between $90 and $390.  Among them , I see one at 100 euro, free shipping, and open to offers, with far better eye appeal than the example you posted..  

I have found one example on US eBay at comparable price to the auctions..

Plenty of ways to do your market research.

Good luck! 

tdziemia

In my opinion, mintage is irrelevant. What matters is recent market results.

 

Recent auction results from your part of the world: https://www.biddr.com/auctions/savoca/browse?a=5167&l=6325295

https://www.numisbids.com/sale/7629/lot/?lot=7748

Both of these have better eye appeal than the coin in your photos (even if they might grade about the same).

Of course, you need to add 20% auction fee and postage, bringing the “real cost” to something like 60-70 euro.

 

I also can find 33 examples of this coin for sale on MA-Shops for prices ranging between $90 and $390.  Among them , I see one at 100 euro, free shipping, and open to offers, with far better eye appeal than the example you posted..  

I have found one example on US eBay at comparable price to the auctions..

 

Plenty of ways to do your market research.

 

Good luck! 

 

 

Thank you very much for the work done.
The final price for this particular coin is 180 Euros. So it seems to me to be very overpriced compared to the online auctions that were presented here

Nyní jsem zkontroloval slevy na MA-shopech. @Takže s touto mincí se už nebudeme zabývat. @Moc vám všem děkuji a toto fórum zavírám.

jeto2

tdziemia

In my opinion, mintage is irrelevant. What matters is recent market results.

 

Recent auction results from your part of the world: https://www.biddr.com/auctions/savoca/browse?a=5167&l=6325295

https://www.numisbids.com/sale/7629/lot/?lot=7748

Both of these have better eye appeal than the coin in your photos (even if they might grade about the same).

Of course, you need to add 20% auction fee and postage, bringing the “real cost” to something like 60-70 euro.

 

I also can find 33 examples of this coin for sale on MA-Shops for prices ranging between $90 and $390.  Among them , I see one at 100 euro, free shipping, and open to offers, with far better eye appeal than the example you posted..  

I have found one example on US eBay at comparable price to the auctions..

 

Plenty of ways to do your market research.

 

Good luck! 

 

 

Thank you very much for the work done.
The final price for this particular coin is 180 Euros. So it seems to me to be very overpriced compared to the online auctions that were presented here

Yes, indeed.  

It is a bit difficult to compare auction prices to retail prices, because to get a coin at a good auction price it can take time (sometimes you lose 2 or 3 times before winning a coin at a price you want to pay). 

But no way is this coin worth 180 in the current market.