50 Cents / ½ Dollar "Capped Bust Half Dollar" 1807-1836

I recently purchased an 1827 Capped Bust off Ebay for $48.00, and I took it to my local coin show.

I showed it to one of the dealers and he said, “It's fake”. So, I requested a return from the Ebay seller.

I would like to know your thoughts about this coin before I drill a hole in it.

The pictures show both Ebay sellers pictures and the coin I received from Ebay.

And they are not the same coin.

Which coin is real, and which one is fake???

Or are they both fake???

Clearly not the same coin…

He has photos of a real super nice coin in the ad and sends a Chinese fake to the buyer..? 

Good scam…😬 I wonder how many he has sold at $48 a whack…

Does he have a lot of positive feedbacks?

Yes, he has a lot of feedback but eBay has a moneyback guarantee and I sent a complaint in and they gave him five days to respond after five days. I get my money back which is cool and then I drill a hole in it. eBay said I don’t have to return it which is a good thing.

So which is the real coin the one on the left or the one on the right?

What do they weigh? Are they magnetic. What's on the edge?  They both resemble real varieties of that coin.

So it weighs 12.8 g of magnet, barely sticks to it and has watering on the side that says “half dollar and fifty cents.

It's not worn enough to be 5% light and a magnet should fall off at that angle.  You guessed at the word AND on the edge? Should be “OR" “FIFTY CENTS OR HALF DOLLAR”  They advertised the Square base 2 coin and sent the Curl base 2 coin?  

Edit:

This didn't scare you off?  24 to sell with the same picture? 72.7% positive ratings?

I learned my lesson I guess not to buy stuff from people that are selling from China and don’t have a 99 or 100% rating. Thanks for the information. Have a good holiday weekend peace jeff out

As they say, “All's well that ends well.”  Get your refund, leave a bad review, drill a hole.  

A fake scam and defective, they should always send what is pictured, unless the photo says something like “Image in illustration is NOT the coin you will receive, but you will receive one of equivalent quality and date”.

Its a hideous scam, but yeah 72% positive, thats the lowest I have ever heard of unless they have had under 5 trades and the first one is bad. I generally will not buy off anyone under 99% or sell to those under 98% and will read feedback of anyone under 99.5%. I can understand high 99% as you get disgruntled troublemakers who will give you poor feedback and those you give bad feedback too, may return that favour. Sometimes bad feedback is not always your fault, but 72% I see red flags

Lucky ebay has your back, because many sites would not. I use trademe a NZ site and never use ebay as its just full of scammers and cheats and you need a degree in numoscience and commerce just to use it.

I just done some creative maths and realised 72.7% is five sevenths, meaning its a new seller who has had 7 sales and 2 were negative, 5 positive - now with you hopefully it will be 62.5% with 3 negative. The fact it mentions 21 sold, means they must have sold the same thing under other accounts.

Some people may give this a pass, as new sellers often have a couple of starting hiccups and we can forgive that, but after 20 feedbacks, no reason why you should be under 90%. Usually you will make a mistake first time out and learn, 2nd time yeah still mastering it, but same era 3rd time - something is fishy. This guy was still on strike 2 here.

Its whackamole with Ebay, they will shut the account down and another opens. Just avoid these auctions

thanks everyone for all your help and information. Never stop learning. I will pay better attention next time by the way I got my refund from eBay and I get to keep the coin so now it’s time to drill a hole in it.

I drilled a hole in it and I’m satisfied that it’s fake.

Jeff Henry

I drilled a hole in it and I’m satisfied that it’s fake.

With this image (hole aside) the details or lack thereof definitely show signs of a fake 

That gives me an idea. I have a similar trophy I bought years ago before I knew any better. 

I have recently thought about to get out my pellet gun and practice a bit. 

I will see if i can mount this prize in a a target, then I will see if I can hit it from 10 paces.