Rest in peace Pope Francis

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Today everyone whether they are Catholic or not are united in mourning for the death of Francis.

 

I wonder if the Vatican would issue coins under Sede vacante and if any new circulating coins under the new Pope after the Conclave would be issued in the near future. 

 

 

 

https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope-francis-dead-01ca7d73c3c48d25fd1504ba076e2e2a

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I expect new coins will be issued but whether they have the portrait of the new Pope or if they'll stay with the seal of the Vatican for any future issues time will tell. If any Sede Vacante coins are issued during this time I guess they'll sell out quickly. Not only us numismatists are interested in these items but the millions of Catholics around the world too. 

I just woke up this morning, and this was all over my news feed! Rest in peace. 😢🕊️✝️ 

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May his late holiness rest in peace. 🙏✝️🕊️

It was a shocking news when I woke up at morning.

Not only the passing itself but the timing, the day after easter.

 

It's as if he directed all his remaining energy to be present at the easter mass, and then expired.

Or if the man above waited until after the easter to take him to the above floor.

 

Either way, I knew his situation was critical, but his recovery was going well, and I didn't wanted him to go this year since we're at the middle of a jubilee year.

 

Rest in peace.✝️🕊️

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I expect new coins will be issued but whether they have the portrait of the new Pope or if they'll stay with the seal of the Vatican for any future issues time will tell. If any Sede Vacante coins are issued during this time I guess they'll sell out quickly. Not only us numismatists are interested in these items but the millions of Catholics around the world too. 

Apparently since 2008 it’s technically illegal for the Vatican to produce standard circulating Sede Vacante coinage thus in 2013 it was only released on non circulating €2 Euro, silver €5 and gold €10 Euro coins. 
 

Article 5. Changes to the national sides of regular euro coins intended for circulation:"... the designs used for the national sides of the euro coins intended for circulation denominated in euro or in cent should not be modified, except in cases where the Head of State referred to on a coin changes ... A temporary vacancy or the provisional occupation of the function of Head of State should not give the right to change the national sides of the regular euro coins intended for circulation."

 

So we won’t see any new Vatican circulating coinage if any until they have designed the obverse either with the portrait of the new Pope or the seal.   

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A good Pope and Godly man who did so much positive for the Catholic Church.

May he rest in peace.

 

With the sede vacante coins, likely only if they go several months without a new Pontiff.

Before 1870, they issued them frequently as often finding a new pope took several months and even a year or more. But since 1870 when Vatican City has been issuing coins along side Italy, they haven't.

 

But likely there will be memorial medals and maybe a circulating collectible. Standard Vatican coins are Euros now I have noticed. I bought a John Paul II commemorative 50 Eurocent coin when I went to the Vatican in 2014.

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I expect new coins will be issued but whether they have the portrait of the new Pope or if they'll stay with the seal of the Vatican for any future issues time will tell. If any Sede Vacante coins are issued during this time I guess they'll sell out quickly. Not only us numismatists are interested in these items but the millions of Catholics around the world too. 

Apparently since 2008 it’s technically illegal for the Vatican to produce standard circulating Sede Vacante coinage thus in 2013 it was only released on non circulating €2 Euro, silver €5 and gold €10 Euro coins. 
 

Article 5. Changes to the national sides of regular euro coins intended for circulation:"... the designs used for the national sides of the euro coins intended for circulation denominated in euro or in cent should not be modified, except in cases where the Head of State referred to on a coin changes ... A temporary vacancy or the provisional occupation of the function of Head of State should not give the right to change the national sides of the regular euro coins intended for circulation."

 

So we won’t see any new Vatican circulating coinage if any until they have designed the obverse either with the portrait of the new Pope or the seal.   

New information to me. Thank you. I'm still wondering if Kosovo or Montenegro will ever get a pass like Andorra to issue their own Euro coins for circulation. The currency situation in Kosovo alone is dire with alot of fake 2 Euro coins in the market and people refusing to accept most 2 Euros in fear that they're counterfeits. Makes sense that only a €2 could be possibly issued as a collectors item not intended for circulation in the Sede Vacante case. Maybe one day we'll see all Vatican Euro coins intended for circulation but it's wishful thinking. The only reason the 50c circulates is due to some law that so much of the Euros produced have to be for circulation. Even if all Vatican coins were in circulation many would never leave the bank or post office and end up on Ebay anyway unless produced in absurd quantities.

BrunoCoins

New information to me. Thank you. I'm still wondering if Kosovo or Montenegro will ever get a pass like Andorra to issue their own Euro coins for circulation. The currency situation in Kosovo alone is dire with alot of fake 2 Euro coins in the market and people refusing to accept most 2 Euros in fear that they're counterfeits. Makes sense that only a €2 could be possibly issued as a collectors item not intended for circulation in the Sede Vacante case. Maybe one day we'll see all Vatican Euro coins intended for circulation but it's wishful thinking. The only reason the 50c circulates is due to some law that so much of the Euros produced have to be for circulation. Even if all Vatican coins were in circulation many would never leave the bank or post office and end up on Ebay anyway unless produced in absurd quantities.

That’s sad Kosovo should have the right to have their own coin designs. 

 

That’s new to me  the law about 50 Cent coins as Germany ceased minting 50 Cent coins from 2004 until 2022 and France did until 2018-19 I think. 

 

The Vatican excluding the 50 Cent after 2010 did mint 1,2,5,10,20,50 (pre 2010), and Euro coins for circulation under John Paul II and Benedict XVI as well as €2 coins under JPII but the mintage for all was around 6,000 hence I think 99.9% of them would be in collectors hands. 

 

Like all countries that joined the Euro, starter kits were distributed to banks and businesses so a minuscule amount (6k) of 2002 Vatican coins were released into circulation.  

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New information to me. Thank you. I'm still wondering if Kosovo or Montenegro will ever get a pass like Andorra to issue their own Euro coins for circulation. The currency situation in Kosovo alone is dire with alot of fake 2 Euro coins in the market and people refusing to accept most 2 Euros in fear that they're counterfeits. Makes sense that only a €2 could be possibly issued as a collectors item not intended for circulation in the Sede Vacante case. Maybe one day we'll see all Vatican Euro coins intended for circulation but it's wishful thinking. The only reason the 50c circulates is due to some law that so much of the Euros produced have to be for circulation. Even if all Vatican coins were in circulation many would never leave the bank or post office and end up on Ebay anyway unless produced in absurd quantities.

That’s sad Kosovo should have the right to have their own coin designs. 

 

That’s new to me  the law about 50 Cent coins as Germany ceased minting 50 Cent coins from 2004 until 2022 and France did until 2018-19 I think. 

 

The Vatican excluding the 50 Cent after 2010 did mint 1,2,5,10,20,50 (pre 2010), and Euro coins for circulation under John Paul II and Benedict XVI as well as €2 coins under JPII but the mintage for all was around 6,000 hence I think 99.9% of them would be in collectors hands. 

 

Like all countries that joined the Euro, starter kits were distributed to banks and businesses so a minuscule amount (6k) of 2002 Vatican coins were released into circulation.  

And still, these coins could probably actually get into everyday circulation from time to time and even “travel” quite far within the eurozone. Just as a curiosity,  I recall this Vatican 50 cent 2013 which should have been found in a vending machine in Slovakia (post from 7th February 2021). 

 

https://www.sberatel.com/diskuse/sberatel/euromince-10853?page=17&per-page=10
 

As for Montenegro and Kosovo, I think the situation is different from Vatican, Andorra or Monaco. Really small European states outside the EU like these have been traditionally connected to their bigger neighbour (or more of them) and with the exception of Andorra, they all oficially accepted euro at the same time as their “big brothers,” which are also in charge of minting these coins, if I'm not mistaken. Neither Montenegro nor Kosovo has any such neighbour which would be a member of the eurozone. That said, euro coins for Montenegro could be probably minted in Italy or Germany (no big enough mint in the vicinity I think), but it would look a bit strange politically if Montenegro had its own euros while the EU members in the region (mainly Romania) would not. And to be honest, there are also economical differences, which probably block the official acceptance of euro circulation in Montenegro and Kosovo from the part of the EU.

 

And returning to the original topic, I agree with all which has been written here. The Pope Francis was really an extraordinary man, may he rest in peace.

R.I.P. Pope Francis.  Such very sad news to wake up to on Easter Monday.

 

A good man who appears to have been intent on making the world a better place and making amends for earlier decisions he then later felt were wrong.  Thank you for all that you have achieved over the years.

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A simple tribute to the Pope: 

 

https://youtu.be/mjE6TH9uEEA

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