Remove mintage of "4"

Discussion about Guatemala • 1 Real (Central American Republic - Provisional Coinage)

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The mintage of “4” should be removed, there's nothing to substantiate it. It is just an out of date note from the old Krause catalog where they said that there were “4 known” (p566 in the 6th edition). 

There's dozens of different examples sold. It is still a scarce coin though!

Perhaps there should be a note as well explaining this. 

Also in the 8th edition.

If only 4, NGC has graded all 4.

Krause has many mistakes like this that keep being copied and repeated. Its understandable though as it was put together in a less internet-enabled age. 

Analyzing specimens from recent years on various auction archivers I have the following distinct photographed specimens:

2024-08 Ebay VF

2024-07 Ebay F-VF Holed

2024-03 CoinsNB F

2020-11 Sedwick N-VFd

2020-11 Sedwick N-25

2020-08 Ebay P-VFd

2020-05 Sedwick N-50 Ex Brand/Norweb

2019-03 Goldberg N-30 Ex Dana Roberts

2018-11 Sedwick N-45 DD Garretson

2018-05 Ebay G Holed Serrated

2011-04 Heritage N-30 Ex Baltimore ANA 1985

 

Several more in older auction catalogs that I am analyzing (e.g. Almanzar, Peters sales).

There's also at least 2, maybe 3 obverse (tree-side) dies, with different placements around the “R” of “1 R”, per Sandoval's research.

Thank you for pointing this out.  The Mintage figure has been removed.

 

Yes, we have a number of these sprinkled through the catalog that should never have been written in the Mintage field, since they are not mintages.  

 

Added:  In CNG's 2014 sale of and example graded AU-55, they say: "Only four specimens are supposed to exist, yet ten have been graded." so this has been knwn for a long time. 

matthewnyc

Krause has many mistakes like this that keep being copied and repeated. Its understandable though as it was put together in a less internet-enabled age. 

Analyzing specimens from recent years on various auction archivers I have the following distinct photographed specimens:

2024-08 Ebay VF

2024-07 Ebay F-VF Holed

2024-03 CoinsNB F

2020-11 Sedwick N-VFd

2020-11 Sedwick N-25

2020-08 Ebay P-VFd

2020-05 Sedwick N-50 Ex Brand/Norweb

2019-03 Goldberg N-30 Ex Dana Roberts

2018-11 Sedwick N-45 DD Garretson

2018-05 Ebay G Holed Serrated

2011-04 Heritage N-30 Ex Baltimore ANA 1985

 

Several more in older auction catalogs that I am analyzing (e.g. Almanzar, Peters sales).

There's also at least 2, maybe 3 obverse (tree-side) dies, with different placements around the “R” of “1 R”, per Sandoval's research.

I think these are others that are unique (i,e. not duplicates of your list):

2014-09 Heritage ANACS VF-30

2014-08 CNG N-55

2013-01 Stack's N-VG details

2010-03 Stack's N-15

2020-01 Stack's N-40

 

That gets us up to 16 and maybe even gets all ten graded by NGC? 

Well spotted. I have the following as well from pre-internet catalogs:

 

1979-12 Christensen VF

1973-03 Christensen G-VG Holed

1971-08 Almanzar VG-F

1969-02 Jess Peters XF

1966-03 HMF Schulman VF Holed

1952-08 New Neth CC VF Holed

1935-02 Morgenthau VF (XF+?) Buyer “Ordvi”?

1921-12 H Chapman Fine

1906-02 LL Haynes G-F

 

Some plated, some not. I think we can conclusively say that this is a very rare coin but has more than 4 examples! 

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