Definitely NOT a coin - but a local token of some type.

Definitely NOT a coin;

N#455407 .

It is a local token of some type.

Far too many local tokens are being listed under ‘Coins’ when they are NOT coins.

They should be under ‘Exonumia’.

Aidan.

It is under Exonumia.

Local coins are now a subset of coins and not tokens or medals.

Local coins are under Coins for now.

Local coins ARE coins. At certain time/place they had purchasing value so they are not exonumia. 

Dejan

Local coins ARE coins. At certain time/place they had purchasing value so they are not exonumia. 

Not in all countries. In the UK for example unless minted by The Royal Mint on the permission of the Government, therefore local coins are not legal tender.

peterjhalford

Dejan

Local coins ARE coins. At certain time/place they had purchasing value so they are not exonumia. 

Not in all countries. In the UK for example unless minted by The Royal Mint on the permission of the Government, therefore local coins are not legal tender.

N#126210 I don't believe being legal tender by the government of the country they are made/used in is part the the Numista definition of Local Coin.

srsirian1

N#126210 I don't believe being legal tender by the government of the country they are made/used in is part the the Numista definition of Local Coin.

It's not possible for anyone to know everything, so many items get misclassified all the time.

I didn't even realise we had any of the Drake Tokens listed… obviously not a coin.

These tokens were part of a promotional scheme by the Drakes Circus Shopping Centre, aimed at encouraging local shopping and providing discounts. The tokens could be collected and then exchanged for various goods and services at participating businesses in the area.

They are the medallic equivalent of a voucher… just not paper.

Even without those three Local coin “tokens” it doesn't change the fact that Local coins in the new Numista catalog are under “coins” and not “tokens” or medals" which was the original question. In reality there is no official Exonumia catalog.

rsirian1

peterjhalford

Dejan

Local coins ARE coins. At certain time/place they had purchasing value so they are not exonumia. 

Not in all countries. In the UK for example unless minted by The Royal Mint on the permission of the Government, therefore local coins are not legal tender.

N#126210 I don't believe being legal tender by the government of the country they are made/used in is part the the Numista definition of Local Coin.

Lots of coinages and paper note issues have circulated in the United Kingdom since the 1690s with out being Legal Tender. Coin produced by the Royal mint was for a long time the only Legal Tender in England and Wales. Current banknotes issued by the banks in Scotland and Northern Ireland are listed as banknotes in Numista, despite not being legal tender.

rsirian1

peterjhalford

Dejan

Local coins ARE coins. At certain time/place they had purchasing value so they are not exonumia. 

Not in all countries. In the UK for example unless minted by The Royal Mint on the permission of the Government, therefore local coins are not legal tender.

N#126210 I don't believe being legal tender by the government of the country they are made/used in is part the the Numista definition of Local Coin.

This was moved to tokens by a referee not too long ago, so not sure why its appeared back in the UK catalogue.

peterjhalford

rsirian1

peterjhalford

Dejan

Local coins ARE coins. At certain time/place they had purchasing value so they are not exonumia. 

Not in all countries. In the UK for example unless minted by The Royal Mint on the permission of the Government, therefore local coins are not legal tender.

N#126210 I don't believe being legal tender by the government of the country they are made/used in is part the the Numista definition of Local Coin.

This was moved to tokens by a referee not too long ago, so not sure why its appeared back in the UK catalogue.

If you click on the history link at the bottom of the page, you can see who did what and when.

It's not there weirdly… 

peterjhalford

It's not there weirdly… 

Local coins are still in the exonumia area of the catalogue…

No exonumia referee for the UK still…

This is under ‘Coins’;

N#457653 .

Should be under ‘Exonumia’.

Aidan.

BCNumismatics

This is under ‘Coins’;

 

N#457653 .

 

Should be under ‘Exonumia’.

 

Aidan.

You could say that about almost all of the 3400 local coins. If you think Local coins should be moved to Tokens you should suggest that in the Numista website forum as an idea to improve Numista.

inc7007

peterjhalford

It's not there weirdly… 

Local coins are still in the exonumia area of the catalogue…

No exonumia referee for the UK still…

There used to be Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia catalog sections. It made sense to identify the referee of each section. It no longer makes sense since there is no Exonumia catalog section. Yes, most members remember the old Numista and can look in the URL to see if exonumia or pieces but why would a new member even think that's the system that needs to be used to find the referee?  Besides, that URL difference is not always accurate when objects are moved to a different type. So how is a new member and many old members supposed to know that the referee for (some) Coins › Local coins is not the coin referee? Or is it? Is @peterjhalford the referee of UK Coins › Local coins or not?  @Jarcek ?

The responsible person(s) [if they exist] should be listed under each catalog page similar to the query pages.

Idolenz

The responsible person(s) [if they exist] should be listed under each catalog page similar to the query pages.

Exactly. 

And this needs to change to the 5 object types.

We have bugs in this…

Another one that should be under ‘Exonumia’;

N#456368 .

Aidan.

BCNumismatics

Another one that should be under ‘Exonumia’;

 

N#456368 .

 

Aidan.

Submit a CR to move it out of Coins. Where does it belong?