10 Centimes German Occupation Coinage

Hi have this 10 Centimes coin and my coin is  also catalogued on Numista N#514. My interest are the dots each side of the date, my coin has one dot only and I know theirs been discussions on other site forums regarding the dots like wear or removed. What is everyone's take on here  just out of interest. 

It might be wear and tear?

If you use the NRI and frequency on the coin page you get this:

• 1916           66 members

  1916 •         66 members

Seems like too many members to be wear and tear of the dot on only one side of the coin.

Note: This is based on a far extrapolation to get NRI 6  equals 2,200 members. Maybe the referee can give the exact numbers.

As I see it, most members just put their coins in the first year line, which is normal for type collectors, so I cannot deduce anything from that.

None of those are the first year line. My point is that 132 members also having a one dot date is too many to be due to wear and tear. I've modified my post to make it less confusing.

If some were made with 2 dots on one side I don't see how one dot only isn't considered a variety.

 66 to 66 is not looking strange?

Explain why you think missing a dot on the left is from wear and not a variety.

Please show me an XF with the dot missing on any side, and I still wonder how it's statistical possible to have 66 against 66 for a single dot version?

I wouldn't get too hung up on both being 3% Frequency.  

SCWC lists them as varieties:

And, by the way, you are one of the 66 members that lists the  1916 •  variety in their collection and one of the 1,760 members having the • 1916 • variety.

Well thanks to all who replied back. What a response that was and a very interesting take on the dot varieties. As mentioned in my post, other coin site and forums this is a hot subject regards to the dots. Will research further into this coin.

Again thanks for the input👍

I still wonder if they are real varieties or just filled die errors…. but they are acknowledged as variants, so that's it.

Just question I forgot to ask in my first post regards to grading of the coin photo's in my post, I graded this coin in my Numista catalogue as VF. Just wondering if might have been a bit conservative/low on the grade and would it pass as EXF. I'm bit of a novice to coin collecting  and new here & still learning.

Best

Ernest

Sjoelund

I still wonder if they are real varieties or just filled die errors…. but they are acknowledged as variants, so that's it.

Have you looked at yours recently? 

No, I haven't, but I remember having seen half- and quarter dots. I have also seen mechanically removed dots, but that could be seen at a high magnification. Anyway, they are called variants, so it is, what it is. It seems I only have the 1916 with 2 dots (I have that in double). I have 

deleted the coin with only one dot. I reorganized Belgium some years ago and probably thought it was a double! Anyway, now I miss it.

Here is my .1916.

How about the 25 Centimes? Seems the 1916 also has dots/no dots.

N#513

Here I had .1916. and .1916

.1916.

.1916

So, in your opinion, a variant, a filled die or wear and tear.

1. Not wear and tear on my coins, they are quite well conserved.

2. Eventually a filled die (nearly bound to happen, because it's a hollow on the die causing the dot)

3. A variant is a likely possibility, specially if you look at the 10 cents 1917, where you can see, anything can happen in Belgium….

I saw that 1917 graphic yesterday and I agree.

These are varieties and I was interested to learn that this dot situation is present on the 25 Centimes of 1916 as well. This issue came up when I was writing my article on the 1915 Ghent (aka Gent) coins of the German Occupation. The ones that are brass on one side and copper on the other. The 1 Franken piece had square dots separating the 1.1.1919 REMBOURSEABLE date, but is also listed with one of the dots missing. Then I came across examples with the dot faintly disernible, I concluded that it probably shouldn't be listed, as in KM, as a separate variety. Just a case where the die gradually became filled. You can access photos of all three varieties (all my modest Belgium collection) at my Moneta Coin Museum at: 

http://www.moneta-coins.com/showgallery.php?cat=567

The link below will take you to the description and article link for the ‘standard’ issue with both dots:

http://www.moneta-coins.com/showphoto.php?photo=3294&title=belgium1-franken-ghent-wwi-german-occupation&cat=567

Finally, the direct link to the .pdf article that appeared in Numismatics International, the “Bulletin” at this .io link:
https://groups.io/g/Moneta/files/Moneta%20Library/Ghent%20Belgium%20Emergency%20Coins%201915.pdf

Please let me know if there are any issues with linking to the Museum and/or article. The article covers the coinage situation in Belgium during the occupation and presents new research that was previously unavailable in English.