Need "UNC" Variety in Swami Chinmayananda coin [solved]

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Hi,

 

Not sure if I am selecting the right category. I have a “UNC” variety of this coin - 

N#74058

while the page only shows “Proof” varieties.

 

Pictures - 

 

This one's issued by Hyderabad Mint, with * mark.

“UNC” (uncirculated) is a description of coin condition, “Proof” is a variant of the coin finish. This UNC on the packaging says that coin was in mint condition (no damages) and it looks like Proof finish for me. So all is OK in my opinion.

Coins that are not “proof” have standard finish and this is usually without any info on yearline in Numista.

Sometimes, there is another variant: “Brilliant uncirculated”, for the coins that are not Proof but have better finish than standard ones.

OP has set that looks like blister.

 

By the looks of it they had Proof set in blister packaging too. At least one is for sale on ebay with “Proof set” in the corner.

 

Did they publish mintage numbers for each set on some bank or mint site?

 

Plus coin page tells that it is silver, when it should be calling alloy billon. Those 100 rupees are 50% silver, 40% copper, 5% zinc, 5% nickel

Maybe this refers to the second coin 10 Rupees that is issued in standard finish and proof finish.

An uncirculated line has to be indeed added, just as its done for all the other commemorative coins of India

 

heres an example

 

N#302669

tokul

 

Plus coin page tells that it is silver, when it should be calling alloy billon. Those 100 rupees are 50% silver, 40% copper, 5% zinc, 5% nickel

No, Numista defines billon as less than 50% silver.  The coin page is correct to call it silver.

For info India referee @Ponpandi Perumal 

The coin in OP's package sure looks like a proof.

 

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MMowiec

“UNC” (uncirculated) is a description of coin condition, “Proof” is a variant of the coin finish. This UNC on the packaging says that coin was in mint condition (no damages) and it looks like Proof finish for me. So all is OK in my opinion.

Coins that are not “proof” have standard finish and this is usually without any info on yearline in Numista.

Sometimes, there is another variant: “Brilliant uncirculated”, for the coins that are not Proof but have better finish than standard ones.

 

 

The coins sold by India Government Mint are in two varieties - Proof and UNC. The packaging clearly shows which one's UNC and which one's Proof. I understand UNC is a description of “Condition”, but in India, the coin sets are sold as “Proof” and “UNC” with different price tags. UNC just doesn't mean it is an uncirculated coin. 

 

Example:

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/unc-75th-anniversary-of-constitution-folder/ (UNC, Costs INR 3,500)

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/proof-75th-anniversary-of-constitution-folder/ (Proof, Costs INR 3,778)

They are both exactly the same in terms of the specifications. But sold at different price-points. These however don't include the packaging pictures, so including another set that has proof and UNC versions - 

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/birth-centenary-of-h-h-shri-mataji-nirmala-devi-rs-100-unc-coin-3-fold-pack/ (UNC, Costs 4,100)

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/birth-centenary-of-h-h-shri-mataji-nirmala-devi-rs-100-proof-coin-3-fold-pack/ (Proof, Costs 4,380)

Please see the last picture in both. It shows the front of the packaging.

soaham

MMowiec

“UNC” (uncirculated) is a description of coin condition, “Proof” is a variant of the coin finish. This UNC on the packaging says that coin was in mint condition (no damages) and it looks like Proof finish for me. So all is OK in my opinion.

Coins that are not “proof” have standard finish and this is usually without any info on yearline in Numista.

Sometimes, there is another variant: “Brilliant uncirculated”, for the coins that are not Proof but have better finish than standard ones.

 

 

The coins sold by India Government Mint are in two varieties - Proof and UNC. The packaging clearly shows which one's UNC and which one's Proof. I understand UNC is a description of “Condition”, but in India, the coin sets are sold as “Proof” and “UNC” with different price tags. UNC just doesn't mean it is an uncirculated coin. 

 

Example:

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/unc-75th-anniversary-of-constitution-folder/ (UNC, Costs INR 3,500)

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/proof-75th-anniversary-of-constitution-folder/ (Proof, Costs INR 3,778)

They are both exactly the same in terms of the specifications. But sold at different price-points. These however don't include the packaging pictures, so including another set that has proof and UNC versions - 

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/birth-centenary-of-h-h-shri-mataji-nirmala-devi-rs-100-unc-coin-3-fold-pack/ (UNC, Costs 4,100)

https://www.indiagovtmint.in/en/product/birth-centenary-of-h-h-shri-mataji-nirmala-devi-rs-100-proof-coin-3-fold-pack/ (Proof, Costs 4,380)

Please see the last picture in both. It shows the front of the packaging.

Another example. Sorry I am just finding some time to catalog all my coins so my apologies for multiple posts.

 

 

Here's a picture that shows the same set sold as “Proof” and “UNC”. (Usually I don't buy “UNC”. Only proof. However bought these because these coins bear my name - Soaham in devnagari script :) )

 

 

Anyway, the point I wanted to make is, India mint is selling coins with SAME specifications but calling them UNC and Proof for some reason and also selling them at a lower price point for UNC compared to Proof. Just need to know how to ensure we have a variety for UNC “sets” as well.

Yes, It's the Hyderabad mint issue. Uncirculated blister packing set. I will add, separate year line for this issue.

Thanks for notifying me.

Ponpandi Perumal

So if both coins are exactly the same, this should be only one yearline. Adding Proof and inc yearline can suggest that there were issued two different version of coins.

 

As for now, Numista is not providing the sets section (like ucoin does, this is planned for future in Numista) but on some issuers Australia, Canada), yearlines are temporary added for different packaging.

MMowiec

So if both coins are exactly the same, this should be only one yearline. Adding Proof and inc yearline can suggest that there were issued two different version of coins.

 

As for now, Numista is not providing the sets section (like ucoin does, this is planned for future in Numista) but on some issuers Australia, Canada), yearlines are temporary added for different packaging.

The mint marks are different as well. Hyderabad proof has H mint mark. however that did not start in the initial phase when Hyderabad first started issuing collector coins 

Ponpandi Perumal

Yes, It's the Hyderabad mint issue. Uncirculated blister packing set. I will add, separate year line for this issue.

Thanks for notifying me.

Thank you. I see the UNC Blister set in 100 rupees coin listing, and I updated it.

 

Would it be possible to add the same line to the 10 rupees coin listing as well, here - 

N#74059

 

Also, there was a set released by CCMT (Central Chinmaya Mission Trust), the org that Swami Chinmayananda founded. Example - 

https://eshop.chinmayamission.com/product/swami-chinmayananda-commemorative-coins

This was manufactured at the Kolkata Mint. Issuer is CCMT.

 

How to add this?

 

Pictures - 

 

Front, closed - 

 

 

Front, Slid open - 

 

 

Back

 

 

To my understanding, this was a UNC set. But the specifications of the 100 rupee coin (top left) were the same as that of Proof (50% Silver)

 

soaham

Ponpandi Perumal

Yes, It's the Hyderabad mint issue. Uncirculated blister packing set. I will add, separate year line for this issue.

Thanks for notifying me.

Thank you. I see the UNC Blister set in 100 rupees coin listing, and I updated it.

 

Would it be possible to add the same line to the 10 rupees coin listing as well, here - 

N#74059

 

Also, there was a set released by CCMT (Central Chinmaya Mission Trust), the org that Swami Chinmayananda founded. Example - 

https://eshop.chinmayamission.com/product/swami-chinmayananda-commemorative-coins

This was manufactured at the Kolkata Mint. Issuer is CCMT.

 

How to add this?

 

Pictures - 

 

Front, closed - 

 

 

Front, Slid open - 

 

 

Back

 

 

To my understanding, this was a UNC set. But the specifications of the 100 rupee coin (top left) were the same as that of Proof (50% Silver)

 

 

Sir, requesting comment / feedback. Or should I create another post for it, as it's a different query? I am new, so looking forward to your guidance! :)

we should not be intreducing a separate line for CCMT or similar Entities that are not the mint. For all practical purposes, these are still either UNC or Proof. It should be added to the notes section and possibly with your pictures accompanying 

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