Should UK Merchant Tokens be under England/Scotland/Wales as appropriate?

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Hi everyone,

 

I’ve been thinking about the classification of ‘UK’ trade tokens in the Numista catalogue. Many of these tokens, such as the Warwickshire Birmingham Lutwyche Farthing (link to example token), are currently listed under the United Kingdom. However, their purpose and issuance were very localised, often specific to a town or county, rather than for use across the whole UK.

 

Interestingly, some areas already classify tokens under local regions like England and Scotland. For example:

This approach seems more consistent with the localised nature of these tokens and allows collectors to search by the region most relevant to the token’s actual use and origin.

 

Here are some thoughts for discussion:

  1. Regional Relevance: Trade tokens were closely tied to specific areas, like Birmingham in England or Edinburgh in Scotland. Classifying them under their constituent country would better reflect their origins.
  2. Catalogue Consistency: Since some tokens are already categorised by England or Scotland, should all similar tokens follow this structure for uniformity?
  3. Historical Context: While these tokens were issued during the time of the UK (or Great Britain), they didn’t function as national currency. They were purely local trade instruments.

 

Would a shift toward region-based classification improve the usability and clarity of the Numista catalogue? Or do you think the current structure, listing these tokens under the United Kingdom, is sufficient?

 

I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts on this!

Not wanting to decide on that but the Tokens currently listed under England are from before the 1707 Act of Union so before there being a United Kingdom.

 

Also need to keep in mind the Conder Tokens currently listed under Emergency coinage › Merchant tokens

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The issuer we currently have is normally for items issued by rulers from before 1707.

 

if something was added then it might need a new approachwith new seperate issuer, same as is the case of the German Notgelds

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Thanks for giving some clarity. I await to hear from other users. Also the condor tokens have been removed as a 'category' since the introduction of the rearranged catalogue by the looks of it…?

 

What about the Scottish ones? They are all post 1707.

Not sure who accepted those under Scotland to me at least under current display of these Conder Tokens they are misplaced.

All items in Numista should be added to the Catalogue as a unified approach and of course not some here and some there.

 

I think adding these under England, Scotland etc. might also be too broad, they could be left under UK as is or they could also be listed under added new issuers for example 

England, Sheffield

Scotland, Lanarkshire

Wales, Anglesey

etc.

 

Looking forward what others feel would be best.

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One possibility would be to list these by county. I know at least some token collectors collect a specific county, so it isn't a completely novel approach. We could also extend this to the provincial banknotes within the new unified framework.

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