Terrazone
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Posted: 25 Oct 2024, 16:03
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Have a couple of these ive gotten recently in a lot i need hlep identifying their origin
This specimen weighs 3g
Lenght 19.35mm shorter end to end and 22.27mm at the longer end of the squarish coin
I summize its either maroccan or Tunisian but i cannot identify it due to the language barrier
Frenchlover
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Posted: 25 Oct 2024, 19:10
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Surprisingly the numeral “3” is not written as “٣” so that may leads to
N#157527
AH1183
Then, if confirmed, you should submit a picture of your coin for this page, cause your coin id far better than the current picture !
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Terrazone
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Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 21:54
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Frenchlover
Surprisingly the numeral “3” is not written as “٣” so that may leads to
N#157527
AH1183
Then, if confirmed, you should submit a picture of your coin for this page, cause your coin id far better than the current picture !
Yeah that confused me aswell that the numeral 3 isnt written as expected ill see ig i can find litterature describing the type you mention more throughly then numista listing (which just says arabic script)
Sjoelund
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Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 21:57
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Terrazone
Have a couple of these ive gotten recently in a lot i need hlep identifying their origin
This specimen weighs 3g
Lenght 19.35mm shorter end to end and 22.27mm at the longer end of the squarish coin
I summize its either maroccan or Tunisian but i cannot identify it due to the language barrier
Hi,
by now, you ought to know how to crop your images? So please do it yourself, and don't let other members do your job.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
rsirian1
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Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 22:21
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Frenchlover
Surprisingly the numeral “3” is not written as “٣” so that may leads to
N#157527
AH1183
Then, if confirmed, you should submit a picture of your coin for this page, cause your coin id far better than the current picture !
Did you notice the picture on the coin page has a date of 1183 (not ١١٨٣ or ١١٨3)?
Frenchlover
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Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 23:44
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rsirian1
Did you notice the picture on the coin page has a date of 1183 (not ١١٨٣ or ١١٨3)?
well... maybe I was a little quick and inattentive 😏
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rsirian1
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Posted: 27 Oct 2024, 23:51
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Frenchlover
rsirian1
Did you notice the picture on the coin page has a date of 1183 (not ١١٨٣ or ١١٨3)?
well... maybe I was a little quick and inattentive 😏
So maybe the date is 1173?
Terrazone
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 14:49
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rsirian1
Frenchlover
rsirian1
Did you notice the picture on the coin page has a date of 1183 (not ١١٨٣ or ١١٨3)?
well... maybe I was a little quick and inattentive 😏
So maybe the date is 1173?
Good catch ill see if any 1173 moroccan matches
Frenchlover
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 15:30
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When Roman numeral works for ٣, why not for ٨ ?
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rsirian1
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 15:38
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Frenchlover
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 16:53
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rsirian1
III and VIII ?
When Ghubar* numeral works for ٣, why not for ٨ ?
*The word ghobar or ghubar, in Arabic, means dust and recalls the habit that calculators had of carrying out their operations on dust tables - wooden boards covered with fine dust, on which numbers could be written and easily erased (George Ifrah, Histoire universelle des chiffres, éditions Seghers, Paris, 1981, p. 501)
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rsirian1
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 18:15
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Frenchlover
rsirian1
III and VIII ?
When Ghubar* numeral works for ٣, why not for ٨ ?
*The word ghobar or ghubar, in Arabic, means dust and recalls the habit that calculators had of carrying out their operations on dust tables - wooden boards covered with fine dust, on which numbers could be written and easily erased (George Ifrah, Histoire universelle des chiffres, éditions Seghers, Paris, 1981, p. 501)
Or:
When Arabic numeral works for ٣, why not for ٨ ?
Also referred to as Western Arabic numerals to distinguish from Eastern Arabic Numerals.
Frenchlover
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024, 18:54
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Then, as west differs from east for the numeral eight, your coin is actually AH1773 .
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