szenteeee
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Posted: 19 Oct 2024, 23:54
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ZacUK
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 00:19
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Pictures cropped. What is the diameter?
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
ZacUK
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 00:42
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There is OPTIMO PRINCIPI on the reverse,
with maybe S P Q R before it, above a figure with a raised right hand.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
ZacUK
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 00:47
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Something like this, but with a much larger portrait.
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Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Fenrir
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 13:12
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To me the bust looks like that of Claudius Gothicus, certainly not Trajan. The low detail and porousnes also makes me think it might be a cast fake. Hard to say without size & weight.
SPQR
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 13:19
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What's up with those scratches next to the bust? The reverse does indeed look like the one identified by ZacUK. Perhaps a barbarous imitation? Or indeed a cast.
Thespis266
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 14:57
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I think it is a modern tourist fake. It looks to have been cast, not struck.
Obverse is Hadrian, but he did not mint any SPQR OPTIMP PRINCIP coins; Traianus did. So obverse Hadrian, reverse Traian, cast: perfect recipe for a fake touristic coin not to mess with real stuff in the museums. Somebody obviously vandalized the coin so that it would look more ancient:):):)
szenteeee
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 23:10
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SPQR
What's up with those scratches next to the bust? The reverse does indeed look like the one identified by ZacUK. Perhaps a barbarous imitation? Or indeed a cast.
Unfortunately, I caused them 5 years ago. I found it then, and now I looked up what this coin actually is! its weight is 14.61g I will write down its diameter tomorrow!
I'm talking to a translator, sorry if I don't describe something the way I want it to
Thespis266
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Posted: 20 Oct 2024, 23:39
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This would have been the original Traianus. Your coin's reverse is taken from this design.
szenteeee
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024, 04:48
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Thespis266
This would have been the original Traianus. Your coin's reverse is taken from this design. and what material is it made of?
Thespis266
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024, 10:25
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szenteeee
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024, 15:34
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szenteeee
Thespis266
This would have been the original Traianus. Your coin's reverse is taken from this design. and what material is it made of?
i don't know
Thespis266
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024, 17:54
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Yours look bronze too (copper material, brown/orange from your photos) but I am definitely sure it is not a real coin but a modern fake. No such coin exists in antiquity. But maybe I am wrong. Take it to a museum.
szenteeee
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 11:36
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szenteeee
Thespis266
This would have been the original Traianus. Your coin's reverse is taken from this design. and what material is it made of?
gold
Thespis266
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 12:09
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Sorry, but yours does not look like gold. It is obviously “orichalcum” or simply “brass”.
And anyway, I still believe your coin is a fake, worthless, modern junk. I suggest you take it to a museum to learn more about it.
SPQR
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Posted: 23 Oct 2024, 12:16
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Thespis266
Sorry, but yours does not look like gold. It is obviously “orichalcum” or simply “brass”.
And anyway, I still believe your coin is a fake, worthless, modern junk. I suggest you take it to a museum to learn more about it.
I second this.
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