Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth - First Zloty (1573-1795) ratio to Thaler. [solved]

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This message aims at: requesting the creation or the modification of a currency or denomination in the catalogue

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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pologne-lituanie-1.html shows zloty to thaler ratio as

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First Zloty (1573-1795)

1 Thaler = 8 Zlotys = 240 Groschens = 720 Kreuzers = 4320 Deniers / Hellers

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During times of Stephen Báthory (1576-1586) groschen had fine silver content to fit 1/36 thaler. Compare N#63418 and N#98946 . Lower nomination coins were billons.

 

Sigismund III Vasa (1587-1632) was releasing 3 groschen with same silver content as Báthory.

 

John II Casimir Vasa (1649-1668) groschen had indicated value of 1/90 thaler after 1660. See 30 on 3 Groschen coins or 60 on 1½ groschen/3 polker. Early 3 polker coins still had 24 making early ratio at 1 to 36. First zloty coin was at ⅓ thaler.

 

According to Numista Augustus II the Strong (1697-1733) tried to get country back with 1/24 thaler to groschen ratio, but I suspect that I am looking at other instance where people put coins from wrong country in their branch.

 

I suspect that the only ratio that persisted was 1 Zloty = 30 Groschens = 90 Solidi / Schilling / Kreuzers.

 

Maybe do not display thaler ratio as it tended to follow mass that was outside of country's control.

Thank you.  

 

Gumowski has some information on these equivalents and how they changed by reign.  I will take a look when I finish the duplicate requests.

Probably your suggestion to make some modifications will make sense.

 

The Augustus the Strong situation is complicated, as the small value coins ( to 1/12 thaler) were being struck in Dresden and Leipzig for use not only in Saxony but also for all of Polish-Lithuania Commonwealth, as none of the Polish or Lithuanian royal mints were operating for the first half of the 18th century.  I think this has been discussed in some other threads.  

@tdziemia little up :-)

Status changed to Done (tdziemia, 17 Dec 2024, 02:27)

Thaler equivalent removed, so it is complete.

Thanks !

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