Actually have 100s of these, have to sort which years I have in proof and which are just normal. Bought as part of a huge collection from someone's daughter who had passed away
Not sure what to value this at seen mad figures on eBay
I'm sorry, the photo shown is not of a proof coin. It shows substantial wear of the details and parallel scratch marks indicating harsh cleaning. Proof coins have a mirror-like finish. You might consider putting the entire lot up on EBay for auction, which would hopefully fetch a fair market price. If there are any actual proof or mint state coins, these could be sent for grading then sold individually.
I hope you are lucky and have some in high grade among the hundreds you have. You might find some in mint state, but it is rare to find a proof coin among circulated coins (because proof coins are bought from the mint by collectors and stored in protective holders, without circulating).
You might want to take photos of a few of the highest quality coins from the lot and post them here, for members to advise with respect to grade.
Anyone a link to the proof I have literally 100s untouched not cleaned
IF you have hundreds of them why do you post only pictures of very circulated and/or polished to death coins? Or do you perhaps think that shiny equals high grade?
Personally I would grade all the coins shown as approximately Very Fine (VF). The fact that they all appear to have been cleaned will decrease the value somewhat compared to coins that haven't.
• In 1937, the Royal Mint produced tests (patterns) in different metals (including silver and copper-nickel).
That is very true. Your AI buddy should have informed you that none of them had George VI on them and the only penny pattern (with Edward VIII on it) was bronze.
I'm afraid you have what is called PMD (post mint damage) with no numismatic value to any serious collector.
• In 1937, the Royal Mint produced tests (patterns) in different metals (including silver and copper-nickel).
That is very true. Your AI buddy should have informed you that none of them had George VI on them and the only penny pattern (with Edward VIII on it) was bronze.
I'm afraid you have what is called PMD (post mint damage) with no numismatic value to any serious collector.
According to chatgpt, it is a real piece according to its shiny silver colour and weight (~10 g), it is clearly not the classic bronze penny.
O Some observations:
• The relief is very clear, shiny, without oxidation → it looks like a proof or pattern type.
• In 1937, the Royal Mint produced tests (patterns) in different metals (including silver and copper-nickel).
• The normal 1937 pennies (bronze) weigh 9.4 g and are brown/copper → so your piece is not one.
Hypotheses
1. Official essay ("Pattern") in silver / cupronickel (1937)
• Very rare.
• Potential value: several hundred to several thousand euros, depending on metal and authenticity.
Stop listening to crap AI, it stands for Artificial Incompetence of any one who believes in the sh*t it spits out. I am sure you are not incompetent and you are able to provide other sources of evidence to back up these claims. First provide any evidence of a silver or coppernickel proof coin, catalogue entries, items for sale, sold items etc.
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According to chatgpt, it is a real piece according to its shiny silver colour and weight (~10 g), it is clearly not the classic bronze penny.
O Some observations:
• The relief is very clear, shiny, without oxidation → it looks like a proof or pattern type.
• In 1937, the Royal Mint produced tests (patterns) in different metals (including silver and copper-nickel).
• The normal 1937 pennies (bronze) weigh 9.4 g and are brown/copper → so your piece is not one.
Hypotheses
1. Official essay ("Pattern") in silver / cupronickel (1937)
• Very rare.
• Potential value: several hundred to several thousand euros, depending on metal and authenticity.
Stop listening to crap AI, it stands for Artificial Incompetence of any one who believes in the shit it spits out. I am sure you are not incompetent and you are able to provide other sources of evidence to back up these claims. First provide any evidence of a silver or coppernickel proof coin, catalogue entries, items for sale, sold items etc.