Medals Can anyone ID and value these? [solved]

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Hello, can anyone ID and value these medals (or meallions? - I don't know where medals end and medallions begin)

Both are copper

The top one is 49 mm and weights 58.54 g. and is quite thick.

The lower one is 47 mm and weighs 41.14g.

Thanks in advance!

Bob

Here is your first one.

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2315339

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second one: https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=5562&lot=18

Status changed to Solved (bobroth1951, 21 Apr 2024, 09:38)

Thanks! Any idea of value for the top one?

 

I have a lot more of this type of medal that need ID'ing. 

Status changed to Opened (bobroth1951, 21 Apr 2024, 09:41)

It was sold for 550 USD but is in better condition.

It always comes to find the right interested buyer, I would have estimated around 100-150€ in this condition.

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Status changed to Solved (bobroth1951, 21 Apr 2024, 10:09)

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