Fill the "other mark" field on the date line with a privy mark, example of EIC

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I would like to get your opinion about adding an issuing company as a mintmark when its symbol is clearly visible.
I made this choice for the company EIC which clearly puts its symbol oncoins.

Adding the EIC mintmark to the date line clearly indicates that this coin was issued by EIC.

I therefore added to each coins concerned the mention EIC on the date line.

 

N#402723


But I have a requet to remove this EIC mention because it is not properly a mint.


It's true, according to my honorable colleague MMowiec who always gives me great help when I submit a problem to him, and who answers me:


it's true that EIC is not a real mint. This is the private company which bought the trade mark rights for name EIC and they are rather distributor like Westminster, Jubilee Mint, Hattons of London etc. These kind of companies are organizing often almost full coin distribution process (do the research what can be sold, prepare the design, do the marketing and sell the coins) except of the real minting which needs the phisical industrial resources: special machines and some of experience of workers to do it well. This part is frequently delegated to real mint like Tower Mint, Commonwealth Mint, BH. Mayer Mint (which are not selling itself any coin directly like Royal Mint, RAM or Pobjoy do/did). So it's true that the EIC is not a mint and shoudn't be added in Mint section (it can be at the top as issuing entity).
But the true is that the EIC mark is clearly visible on the mint. I would say that this makes that this can be indicated on the yearline. The question is now: should it be mint letter or other mark field? I'm not sure… Maybe this is a good question to be posted on Referee forum and you can tag Xavier, Jarcek, Competendium or other admins to answer how it should be (if other mark - this needs to be added to the list too ).

 

That's why I submit the question to you: "Can I add EIC as a mintmark or not?

@Xavier ,  @Jarcek ,  @Compendium , @MMowiec , @BCNumismatics

Referee of south atlantic islands

It could be a privy mark, as it is certainly not a mintmark though.

 

Aidan.

Hello,

 

As clearly explained in your post, the East India Company is the issuing entity for these coins, not the mint. Their mark can be added to the year line in the field for “other marks”. The other marks can include marks (letters or image) for the mint master mark, privy marks, die letters, etc.

 

(For information, we have a long term plan to merge the fields for mint letter, mint mark and other marks.)

So please add EIC mark to the list of other marks.

I made the EIC privy mark available and added it to a first coin: N#335857

@Frenchlover , could you please help adding it to the other coins where needed?

Thanks for these explanations, I'll do it.

Referee of south atlantic islands
Status changed to Solved (Frenchlover, 15 Apr 2024, 22:54)

The EIC was a short-lived issuing entity. It was abolished.

Referee of south atlantic islands

The East India Company existed from 1600 until 1874.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company .

 

Aidan.

Frenchlover wrote about contemporary company which have the same name and issue the collector coins from Saint Helena and few other issuers, not about the original company.

Frenchlover

The EIC was a short-lived issuing entity. It was abolished.

Do you have any info about? I see they still have new coins in their website.

 

However I see also that their privy mark changed and now is like below:

Just vanished in the haze, may be a change in the definition of an issuing entity ?

Referee of south atlantic islands

MMowiec

Frenchlover

The EIC was a short-lived issuing entity. It was abolished.

Do you have any info about? I see they still have new coins in their website.

 

However I see also that their privy mark changed and now is like below:

There are 104 coins listed on Numista and this new privy mark was used only on three rectangular bullion coins. This is therefore an exceptional mark on coins, even though it is their official mark printed on their premium food and lifestyle products.

Referee of south atlantic islands

Xavier

I made the EIC privy mark available and added it to a first coin: N#335857

@Frenchlover , could you please help adding it to the other coins where needed?

The fact that only the privy mark is indicated without mentioning the issuing entity seems odd. 

However, the former East India Company should not be confused with this new entity created in 2005. On their website, they refer to a "rebirth" in 2005.

May you create a separate issuing entity: "East India Company (modern)"?

@Compendium 

Referee of south atlantic islands

Frenchlover

Xavier

I made the EIC privy mark available and added it to a first coin: N#335857

@Frenchlover , could you please help adding it to the other coins where needed?

The fact that only the privy mark is indicated without mentioning the issuing entity seems odd. 

However, the former East India Company should not be confused with this new entity created in 2005. On their website, they refer to a "rebirth" in 2005.

May you create a separate issuing entity: "East India Company (modern)"?

@Compendium 

+1

Status changed to Opened (Frenchlover, 4 Jan 2026, 11:40)

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