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Seriously, you want us to narrow it down to one coin. There are so many, same old, same old and boring coins. Most of the newish UK coins in circulation, automatically get my ugly and boring vote. Mainly due to the horrible effigy.
You should be asking the opposite, "What is your favourite plain, unattractive, boring coin.
Mine would be this one, it's got nothing interesting on it and it's all bent out of shape...
Quote: torontokubaSeriously, you want us to narrow it down to one coin. There are so many, same old, same old and boring coins. Most of the newish UK coins in circulation, automatically get my ugly and boring vote. Mainly due to the horrible effigy.
You should be asking the opposite, "What is your favourite plain, unattractive, boring coin.
Mine would be this one, it's got nothing interesting on it and it's all bent out of shape...
That's what everyone would expect; I never said narrow it down to one - pick any you like; there are already most beautiful coin threads..
I think all Belgian coins after 1948 are very boring (except the commemoratives!).
Apparently most of the swappers here share my opinion, as nobody wants to exchange my Belgian coins!
"For by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing"
-Plato
Quote: torontokubaIn that case, you can't argue with ugly, plain and boring on one side and puzzle piece on the other...
(photo courtesey of Walder Coins)
I will not argue with the fact these new British coins are ugly and disgracefully bad but not boring. Every time I look at one of them I am put into a bad mood and I spend ages going over in my mind constantly asking myself what were they thinking how could they do this and so on. So my point is an occupied mind can't be a bored one.
These coins were designed by a young artist called Matt Dent and they were as far as I know his first commission to design coinage, and I think it is a shame his first job has left such a bad impression. (Sorry about the pun I couldn't help myself)
I have a soft spot in my heart for the Churchill Crowns. They were among the last of the genuine commemoratives, marking the passing of a genuine statesman.
The current UK coins are not very inspiring and the current depictions of QEII are very unflattering. They fail absolutely to convey the majesty and power of our nation. Arnold Machin however was a very hard act to follow.
It's interesting to compare the later coins of Victoria and Elizabeth. I believe the difference in coins mirrors the decline of our culture. When I see Lady Britannia with shield and trident watching over our shores restored to the reverse of the coinage, then I might believe that the current era of the self effacing metrosexual weakling is finally over.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
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Phil, you're absolutely right - it seems that all the coins now are commemoratives with the portrait stance ! They should go right back over with designs ! I have a feeling once we have a king again this will change ! They should whack the imperial crown back out ! Although I know that William won't have a crowned portrait on the UK coinage, sheerly because of his big bald head like his great great and great great great grandads !
I actually collect coins like this - it's my dirty collection. I always keep out the most dirty burnt black grimiest coin; I'll gather them up and send a pic. I mostly do it with U.S. Washington quarters, Jefferson nickels and Roosevelt dimes, but now my state quarter collection of dirties is starting to build up also. I'm trying to get every year for my book.
I just think they're cool and it's the history of them; just imaging what they have went through to get this way - it would be a wonderful story if only we knew.
Hi, I'm new to this forum. The ugliest coin I own is the Swedish 1 krona Gustaf VI Adolf – the portrait of the king is such a mess! I have scores of them (and the similar 2 kronor), but I only keep them for the silver content of 40%. The Cu-Ni ones are still in circulation in Sweden.
However, there are some difficult and rare chemical reactions that can strip the copper off of a CPZ coin while leaving the zinc intact... I think it involves a cyanide compound. Theodore Gray (science columnist, element collector) owns at least one... maybe he should send it off to NGC and try and take them down a peg
To me the most boring and ugly coins are all those with Queen Elizabeth II that aren't from England. Do all those countries not have anything to feel pride to put in their coins rather than the queen from an Empire they don't belong to anymore?
Imagine India or US doing that, or Mexico -and almost all America- with Spain's seal on the back? Sounds pretty stupid right?
It is like the same coins all over, I know the other side makes the difference, but really? Australia, seriously? Don't they have their own pride and natural wonders. I'm not talking about to put Crocodile Dundee as their Obverse, but something like the coral reef or the red rock would be better to the eyes.
Just my personal opinion, because many collectors could love seeing the queen all around the world, but for me it is a waste of creativity, do you hear me Canada!? Yes I am talking to you as well.
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They celebrate their heritage is what they are doing unlike America who ended thing bitterly and other countries. They still belong to the commonwealth and who's the head ? :)
It's all to do with who is the Head of State, and In New Zealand, Canada and Australia it's stil the Queen. If the country has a Governor General then Queen Elizabeth is the head of state and rightly is on the obverse of the coins.
And, yet, exactly, they are boring. They should have stopped feeding from mom's breast a long time ago. If they still belong to the CW, it is perfect. But their coins aren't forced on them, they choose to place the Empire in them. They should feel pride for their own, not trying to please mom's eyes.
Again, I'm not against their political choosing, or such, but their coins are boring. Also, why place the "Head of state" in coins. Surely there is a LOT of people who hates royalty even in England and they have to live with it. Coins shouldn't depict political figures (Ctivs might), but circulation coins should depict real legacy and heroes, not "Mom". I personally hate those coins. Again, those NOT from England, because they could do way better.
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History through coins.
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History, coins have always had the head of state of them. I'm sure plenty of people hated the Roman Caesars but their faces are on all the coins over 2000 years ago. All through medieval times it was always the king's portrait on coins. Countries that split off from a ruling monarch chose not to have the ruler, but usually still chose prominant political leaders like the US coins with Lincoln, Washington, Franklin, Roosevelt, Kennedy etc. Why should we change thousands of years of history simply because you find it boring? Canada has Queen Elizabeth as their head of state so she's on the coins, they can do whatever they want on the reverse, but like it or not, she's staying on the obverse.
Lots of countries have more-or-less common reverses, even republics: like Turkey's usual depictions of Ataturk and the West African CFA franc's traditional weight symbol. Monarchs are traditionally depicted on one side, as they are, indeed, the head of state: some countries even depict the current president on their coins (I think Kenya does this). And there are various levels of Commonwealth membership (as far as I know): 16 "realms" have Queen Elizabeth II as head of state, 32 members are republics (like India), and 5 members actually have a monarch who is not Queen Elizabeth II (like Brunei), which explains the "inconsistency" you are complaining about. The United States is not a member of the British Commonwealth at all. And hey... don't Mexican coins always have the exact same obverse?
Lots of countries have more-or-less common reverses, even republics: like Turkey's usual depictions of Ataturk and the West African CFA franc's traditional weight symbol. Monarchs are traditionally depicted on one side, as they are, indeed, the head of state: some countries even depict the current president on their coins (I think Kenya does this). And there are various levels of Commonwealth membership (as far as I know): 16 "realms" have Queen Elizabeth II as head of state, 32 members are republics (like India), and 5 members actually have a monarch who is not Queen Elizabeth II (like Brunei), which explains the "inconsistency" you are complaining about. The United States is not a member of the British Commonwealth at all. And hey... don't Mexican coins always have the exact same obverse?
Yes, Mexican coins have the "Mexican" obverse. The native depiction of the Eagle eating the snake on a cactus, it is the ancient tale of how Mexico city was placed right on that plot of land... water, cuz it was a lake. And it has changed 12 times over history from a kindergarten-like drawing of a skinny eagle eating a snake-worm , til the most recent now right here
<------ A Royal (hehe, yes I guess we also have royalty on our coins, but at last from animal kingdom) Eagle, beating the shit out of a rattle snake while standing with the other leg on a cactus full of thorns, growing out of a pile of rocks on the middle of a lake.
But it is as Mexican as it gets (maybe they could make the snake hold a Corona beer with the tail to make it slightly more Mexican), not a person from another country, not even a hero. They asked boring coins and to me those are as boring as it gets because the country decides to use it instead of having something that expresses their individuality.
And even Mexico's most plain coins are charming in their own, for example 1, 2, 5 , and 10 actual Peso coins by stacking them one over the other from biggest to smallest form the rings of the Sun Stone, the ancient calendar used to measure seasons by the Aztecs. And the 10$ coin contains the central piece of such stone, so you could actually switch the rings to measure time like the ancients did, so you have a calendar on your coins, no more digital calendar needed. Just kidding. But that is original and native.
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History through coins.
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Quote: neilithicHistory, coins have always had the head of state of them. I'm sure plenty of people hated the Roman Caesars but their faces are on all the coins over 2000 years ago. All through medieval times it was always the king's portrait on coins. Countries that split off from a ruling monarch chose not to have the ruler, but usually still chose prominant political leaders like the US coins with Lincoln, Washington, Franklin, Roosevelt, Kennedy etc. Why should we change thousands of years of history simply because you find it boring? Canada has Queen Elizabeth as their head of state so she's on the coins, they can do whatever they want on the reverse, but like it or not, she's staying on the obverse.
Mexico had Maximillian I as Emperor, and what happened, he got killed and no more faces on the Obverse. As easy as that. French did something similar, they had enough with kings on their coins... XD Just kidding with that.
I'm perfectly fine with England having the queen, it makes perfect sense. But being from a country that once was a colony, I simply can't understand how these countries keep the royalty in their coins when they don't have to.
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History through coins.
Eli V
Quote: Mark240590They celebrate their heritage is what they are doing unlike America who ended thing bitterly and other countries. They still belong to the commonwealth and who's the head ? :)
Yeah I guess the US was the first to have sense enough to get out.
If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything
But, the ugliest coin in my collection is a KM#9.2a From Cuba. It isn't an ugly design, but I'm talking about the condition in which I found the coin.
It is supposed to be 1.5mm thick, well, mine was 4mm thick with rust and coral growing. Never saw a coin like that before. Don't know how the heck did it turned out like that. I thought it was a really old silver coin dropped from a ship or something like that, but then I broke the "crust" it turned out to be cheap coin, but it was quite the experience. XD
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I regularly look through rolls of coins, looking for silver, 100% nickel 5-cent coins (worth over 5 cents) and interesting foreign coins. Once, I found a 5-cent coin covered in green gunk, smeared all over... with an eyelash stuck to it... I was tempted to burn it...
Quote: neilithicHistory, coins have always had the head of state of them. I'm sure plenty of people hated the Roman Caesars but their faces are on all the coins over 2000 years ago.
In fact there is a contemporary account of just that happening:
Epictetos, the Roman philosopher claims that we have our character imprinted on our souls, just as coins have impressions stamped on them. If we find a character objectionable, we reject the person. So we should look at the image on the coins: "whose image does this sestertius carry? Traian's? Give it to me. Nero's? Throw it away, it is unacceptable, rotten":):):)
Now doesn't that account explain why some coins are more mutilated than others even today?
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Quote: nalaberongLots of countries have more-or-less common reverses, even republics: like Turkey's usual depictions of Ataturk
come on, Turkey tried to change that: we also have Inonu the second president on the coins... https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22715.html but maybe the later politicians were considered so corrupt that they may have decided to stop putting pictures of living people on the Money here.
In fact only one other person while alive, a lady, got feautured on our coins for a while:
you can see her on for example https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1342.html and https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces14221.html her name is Sabiha Tansug (last g the Turkish letter ğ) She is in fact a very respected ethnologist and was photographed wearing a local brides headgear while preparing an exhibition on traditional costumes, and were on the coins for a while though many Turks would not know even then who she was.
Ah although I do not have it, I consider the following Cuban 1 peso very very ugly
Quote: thespis26ah although I do not have it, I consider the following Cuban 1 peso very very ugly
Ha ha, I mentioned that coin on another post some months back. It was one of my "Coin at random" coins when I logged into Numista one day. Rather distracting having a bare breasted female pirate staring at you when you log onto the site.
Meet... the most horrible, obliterated penny you may see on Numista.
It is from 1988, but even in the enlarged photo you'd never be able to decipher the last numeral. I only know what it is because it shows in certain reflections of light. And by certain I mean about 1.
At least I got it free...
A six year Numista absence makes the heart grow fonder... ?