Duplicates in Grand Duchy of Lithuania section [solved]

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This message aims at: requesting the modification of a coin in the catalogue

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hello,

 

After moving some coins from Poland there are some duplicates in Lithuania section:

 

This page: N#104468

 

contains these types:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35047.html

N#63412

N#330675

N#63413

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces63414.html

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces63415.html

 

Also these pages contains duplicates:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces46219.html

N#46217

 

This page: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125184.html

is a combination of these 2 pages:

N#33561

N#46216

 

 

I guess there are also plenty of duplicates…

 

Possibly moving Polish coins of Wilno mint to Lithuania wasn't a good decision….

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

For the half groat, it needs to be decided whether to separate out the earlier designs (1545-1546) from the later one with the more stylized eagle (1547-1565).  One type is possibly oversimplified.

 

I think the groat is more complicated than the half groat. 

Maybe the thinking has changed on this, but Gumowski identified groats struck for Poland (#609-611) and groats struck for Lithuania (#612-616) to different weight standards.  If this is still the agreed upon way to look at these coins, then I wonder if some of them should have stayed under Poland?  The bust also varies considerably across the 20 years the groat was struck.

I think there is more logic to keeping more groat varieties than half groats, but it would be good to hear from other Poland and Lithuania collectors.

Proposed for the groats:

  • Keep #46217 (1545-1559, type with continuous obverse legend) and move the collections from #46219.  Rename to “Groat - Sigismund II Augustus (Early bust)”.  We don't need to use “Wilno mint” because this is the default mint for Lithuania in this reign (just a few exceptions).
  • Keep #33561 (1546-1548, type with obverse legend in 3 lines) and move collections from #125148.  Rename to "Groat  - Sigismund II Augustus (Early bust, Polish standard)
  • Keep #46216 (1566-1568, type with obverse legend in 3 lines) and move collections from #125148.  Rename to “Groat - Sigismund II Augustus (Late bust, Tykocin mint). 
Status changed to Started (tdziemia, 2 Apr 2024, 17:17)

Groats are done.

 

For half groats, we will have:

#330675 - 1st eagle (1545-1546)

#63412 - 1st eagle, titles on knight's side (1545-1546)

#35047 - 2d eagle (1546-1562)

#63413 - 2d eagle; Topor arms (1562-1565)

#125181 - Tykocin mint (1566)

 

Need to move a lot of collections.  

It is good to have Kopicki numbers as well. Especially if they are searchable

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Thank you.  I'm trying to do that, but I see I missed on one of the groats (now fixed).

Half groats and groats are now done.  

I think for one of the listings, the Kopicki numbers could not all be fit in the Reference field because there were so many, but I think I captured them all (along with the Gumowski numbers) in the date table.

 

I am going to close this  one, but the same issues also pertain to the trojaks and 4 groat types.  

I will get to these when I can.  

 

Edit:  Trojaks also done.  😵‍💫  Need a break from Lithuania. 

Status changed to Done (tdziemia, 5 Apr 2024, 18:10)

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