Fiji BU Set 1978 [solved]

The Royal Australian Mint did issue 4000 Sets in 1978 of Fiji coins of 1c through 50c

I could find normal mintage, and the proof set mintage for the coins, but not for this set, that I am adding to my collection now.

It is a blue wallet like the New Zealand set with the coat of arms of Fiji.

Inside it is done in the similar way as the New Zealand set with mention that it has been minted and packaged by the Royal Australian Mint and issued by the Central Monetary Authority of Fiji. According to the description in the set, 4000 sets were issued

Mint sets are not currently allowed in Numista.  You can express your opinion that they should be added here:  https://en.numista.com/forum/topic108347.html

@karrlot

He just wants the separate mintage lines to be added for the 4,000 BU sets issued in 1978.

We already have separate mintage lines for the 2,000 Proof coins issued in sets in 1978.

He is not wanting to add the actual set just the mintage lines for the BU Set on each of the coins from 1 cent to 50 cent in 1978.

Mike

Done.

So BU sets which are just unc sets are different condition wise to coins struck for general circulation?  I have always wondered about this…

Oklahoman

So BU sets which are just unc sets are different condition wise to coins struck for general circulation?  I have always wondered about this…

As far as Australia is concerned yes they are. Usually struck from a fresh die and carefully handled before being placed into protective capsules or sets. They are not as carefully dealt with as Proof coins are but they are always much better condition that normal circulation coins.

Mike

brismike

Oklahoman

So BU sets which are just unc sets are different condition wise to coins struck for general circulation?  I have always wondered about this…

As far as Australia is concerned yes they are. Usually struck from a fresh die and carefully handled before being placed into protective capsules or sets. They are not as carefully dealt with as Proof coins are but they are always much better condition that normal circulation coins.

 

Mike

Sounds identical to US Uncirculated Mint Sets.  

I was just curious if the mint counts them outside of their mintages for standard circulation coins.  If they do then numista handles this by letting users choose the grade.

Oklahoman

I was just curious if the mint counts them outside of their mintages for standard circulation coins.  If they do then numista handles this by letting users choose the grade.

Is that so? Then you had better tell all the Euro coin collectors, UK coin collectors, Australian coin collectors that they have to remove all their BU coins from their collections and then get the referees to delete all the mintage lines for BU coins and combine them with the standard circulation coin lines.

Good luck with that. 🤣

While Numista grades for each date line are only up to Unc, it is a reasonable question to ask if the mints count these “BU” mintages.  If they do not, then there is zero reason why they deserve a seperate line.  Or Numista needs to subtract any “known” Bu mintages from the circulation totals.  

This is a reasonable thought, at least since we are trying to be a world standard resource…I would think our statistics and numbers should be accurate.

But hey, they do odd stuff in banknotes as well.  I just hope you were not demeaning me for asking a legitimate question.  And if it is right, why on earth wouldnt we want to fix it?

Benjamin

I agree if the Mints don't count BU coins separately, go ahead include them in the circulation coin mintage lines. Isn't that what they do with USA coins? I collect USA Mint sets and I add them to Circulation coin lines on the respective pages as UNC because there are no BU lines to add them to.

But if they are counted separately, as done in the UK, Europe & Australia, BU issues can be kept on separate mintage lines from the Circulation issues. We know exactly how many are minted as BU or specimen coins.

But that is not what you said above …. I quote..

I was just curious if the mint counts them outside of their mintages for standard circulation coins.  If they do then numista handles this by letting users choose the grade.

I interpreted that is you thinking if they (BU) are counted outside of normal circulation coins then Numista can handle them with choosing a grade, such as UNC on a circulation coin mintage line. I kind of figured you were saying why do we have separate mintage lines for BU coins?

If I misinterpreted what you were saying, or you meant something different I apologise.  😔

Not sure what you meant by your last sentence .. And if it is right, why on earth wouldnt we want to fix it?

Fix what? can you expand on that?

Mike

I was simply saying if they are not segregated then they should be, and we at Numista should support that.

Ok . . looks like we are agreeing then. 😁

That was why the Fiji BU set coins that the OP mentioned in the initial post wanted them listed on Numista. We did know the mintages but they were not listed on here. The Referee added them and we are all happy.

Mike

Nice.