Pakistan 1995 5 Rupee United nations 7 Die varieties

These are the two Die varieties Exists in United nations 5 Rupee coin.

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At first sight the pointy stars and moon were probably struck before the curved ones, meaning it would be just a sign of wear of the die.

However, when zooming in the rounded star looks smaller and in green I marked some other differences that make it a variety in my opinion, yet the short and long lines certainly make it a variety:
 

The long and short end of the 5 are varieties I my opinion.
 

I can't find what ‘Zabar’ means, but I found ‘Kaf’ is a letter in Arabic, Punjabi and Urdu. It seems to me like probably some waste metal created a little dip in the die, which causes there to be a small lump of metal above the letter Kaf.
That would not be a variety in my opinion, but rather a common error on coins. An example of a 2 euro coin with a fairly big lump that I consider to be an error:

Thanks for showing concern. This is what you can expect from pakistan Mint sorry to say. Pakistan mint is not good to produce the coins and day by day standard is going to worse. 
 

As far as zabar variety is concerned zabar is a mark  (meaning "over" or "above" in Persian) is also called fatḥah in Arabic. It consists of a tiny slash running diagonally from upper right to lower left, and appears above the letter to which it applies. (Copy from google). Due to poor quality of die maybe this is error but it is exisit in majority of coins so we consider it as die error and accepted as a die variety. Error in die  could be called as vareity but error in coins is not called as variety i know.

Additionally,  curving/ pointy  moon and star are part of die variety and these variety you can only expect this in pakistan. Not only this others coins have also this types of variety.  These varieties can be seen in majority of coins as mintage of coins are 500k so atleast 7 dies are made bad-luck that they dont like same. 

i hope one day our Mint can been well enough to produce error free coins and different die would have same features for sure.

regards,

Abdullah

Thank you for your explanation, Abdullah!

I did not expect any Persion to be used, is that a common term in numismatics in all of Pakistan?
Anyway, how does the little slash above the letter kaf affect the meaning of the word? Does it make any sense to be there?
As it is such a little detail, I think it is important to try to find out if this is a variety made on purpose or wether it is just a fluke scratch in the die error that can be found on coins from just about every mint in the world. I cannot decide on that, as I have not learned the language. For a better look I made an 800% enlargment, that still looks surprisingly sharp.

I think overall Pakistan mint is not doing bad at all compared to mints around the world. In times of high inflation it is quite normal to see a drop of quality of minting. Once inflation gets under control, usually the minting quality also improves.

For a display on the Numista page (can you share a link please?), I suggest the following:
1. Mention the 2 main varieties on the obverse in one image (something like the one below):
OB 1: long ears of grain, fine lettering, sharp crescent and star

OB 2A: short ears of grain, bold lettering, rounded crescent and star, normal date
OB 2B: short ears of grain, bold lettering, rounded crescent and star, date with a small second 9

2. Mention the 2 reverse varieties in one image showing the long and short 5 (RE 1 and RE 2)

3. Mention that all 6 possible combinations exist. Personally, I think certainly the 4 main combinations each deserve a different date line. I'm not sure the small 9 varieties deserve 2 additional date lines. Yet, for all 6 combinations to exist is definitely very interesting!

Greetings, Edo

No idea which variety my one is;

https://omnicoin.com/coin/987182 .

Several types are depicted here;

http://www.chiefacoins.com/Database/Countries/Sardar_Farooq_Ahmad_Khan_Leghari.htm .

Aidan.

Dear Aidan

Thank you for your comment and interest in my post.

Your variety is type 4. Website you mentioned is old and not updated. it is shared by collector. thanks

regards,
Abdullah

Dear Edo,

I am happy that you have learned and study in detail about my post. Thanks for this.

This Zabar is a voicing expression just like tilde in spanish. These are used in urdu and Arabic language for better reading/ recitation. 

This Zabar variety (fifth one) is created mistakenly during engraving of Coin Die. Don't know the reason whether the maker of the die is not well-averred. I saw my self 20+ of these coins with different collectors. Because of this Error it is called as another variety. Others varieties dont have this zabar on it. (this is because people working in mint are not well educated and their quality control department is not working properly.

I will soon resend the all varieties obverse and reverse in individual picture in my next post and also share other varieties of Pakistan coins.

I know it looks surprised for collectors to know that a coin having many varieties but being a Pakistan collector I cannot do anything to control it expect sharing for knowledge and ask the concern department in mint to  eradicate the mistakes and increase the coin quality in future.  

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Regards,

Abdulla Raza

Most rare veriety according to experience is 5th variety. In all 7 varieties, only you can see thin moon in 5th variety.

Regards,

Abdullah Raza

Kokabomb

Most rare veriety according to experience is 5th variety. In all 7 varieties, only you can see thin moon in 5th variety.

 

Regards,

Abdullah Raza

So the 5th variety is the one with the spelling mistake. Are the 7 varieties you mentioned already known as number 1 to 7 among coin collectors? Or did you make the list yourself? This counting is not logical, as 1, 2 and 6 have the long tail of the 5, while the most common coins (probably) with a regular year are 1, 2, 3 and 4, where 1 and 4 are for small stars and 2 and 3 for big stars.

On Numista, the 4 varieties from Chiefacoins are listed already (one of them is not among the 7).
I think it is best to merge these listings with new logical variety names. As I suggested before Ob 1 and Ob 2 for the main differences and a, b and c for small year differences, but I'll swap my earlier Ob 1 and Ob 2 due to the existing Chiefacoins listing. Then combine it with Re 1 and Re 2, where the ones on Chieffa are all Re 1 (short tail of the 5). The spelling mistake (number 5) would get Ob 2 error/Re 1.

This is on Numista already: N#14094

What do you think of this suggestion?

Kokabomb

Dear Edo,

I am happy that you have learned and study in detail about my post. Thanks for this.

 

This Zabar is a voicing expression just like tilde in spanish. These are used in urdu and Arabic language for better reading/ recitation. 

 

This Zabar variety (fifth one) is created mistakenly during engraving of Coin Die. Don't know the reason whether the maker of the die is not well-averred. I saw my self 20+ of these coins with different collectors. Because of this Error it is called as another variety. Others varieties dont have this zabar on it. (this is because people working in mint are not well educated and their quality control department is not working properly.

 

I will soon resend the all varieties obverse and reverse in individual picture in my next post and also share other varieties of Pakistan coins.

 

I know it looks surprised for collectors to know that a coin having many varieties but being a Pakistan collector I cannot do anything to control it expect sharing for knowledge and ask the concern department in mint to  eradicate the mistakes and increase the coin quality in future.  

 

https://www.facebook.com/abdullahnumismatics/

my Facebook page link is attached.

 

Regards,

Abdulla Raza

Hello Abdulla, I sent a private message about pictures, you can click on account and then on messages to find it.

Pictures were sent, thanks

Kokabomb

Pictures were sent, thanks

Could you please respond to the private messages I sent you on this matter some days ago?

Dear,

im busy somewher. i will respond after somedays when free.

Regards

Kokabomb

Dear,

im busy somewher. i will respond after somedays when free.

Regards

 

No problem! Later this week or the week after is fine.

Greetings and good luck with what is keeping you busy now.

Kokabomb

Pictures were sent, thanks

Could you please respond to the private messages I sent you on this matter some days ago?