New Issuers: Rum Sultanate divisions [solved]

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This message aims at: requesting the creation or the modification of an issuer in the catalogue

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Hello!

 

The Rum Sultanate is in need of sub-issuers.  :)

 

Rûm Sultanate
Ankara, City of
Eastern Provinces (Rûm)
Erzurum, City of
Konya, City of
Malatya, City of
Uncertain rebellion mint

Sivas, City of
Sivas and Aksaray, Cities of
Tokat, City of
Western Provinces

 

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DE0MAHSElWZvgJ6Sh3gY6NAvZoRvyoKi9AUE9HyRxCE/edit?usp=sharing

Can you elaborate please on this uncertain rebellion?

The uncertain rebellion is for this coin:

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=194332

 

The coin has a name and a date on it, although it does not specify the mint, which is unusual for rebel coinage (as, for the most part, the mint is the city which the rebellion took place). So… this is Mas'ud III's rebellion at an uncertain city which he would have taken over for a few months or so.

 

I am not quite sure on how to name this. The closest thing, based on other issuers in our catalogue, would be "Uncertain Rûm mint"; however, with this being a rebel's coin, it is technically outside the Rûm Sultanate (as that is what they were rebelling against), while still being related to the coins from that Sultanate. It is an odd situation, and I have yet to come across any other coin in a similar situation to this. I am still fine with "Uncertain Rûm mint" mint though (or perhaps that would be "Uncertain Rûm Seljuq mint"). Whatever you think is best.  :)

Status changed to Done (Compendium, 26 Oct 2023, 08:05)

Ok I put City

Done :-)

All requests are now pending. Thank you.  :)

 

The naming “Uncertain City of Rûm Rebel” does seems a little strange to me though… it has been a few hours, and I have dealt with more rebellion issuers since then. Perhaps it would be better to name it something along the lines of the “Jund rebellion”. I was thinking…

 

Uncertain rebellion (Rûm)

an uncertain rebellion in Rûm

Incertaine, rébellion roum seldjoukide

de la rébellion roum seldjoukide incertaine

 

Perhaps that would suffice?  x)

I think we need to insist on the circulation area, so either an uncertain city, either a rebel area. Just “rebellion” could be a issuer-wide ruling authority transition, if it makes sense, killing the need for a dedicated issuer.

WDYT about "Uncertain rebel city (Rûm)"?

Yeah that makes sense. "Uncertain rebel city (Rûm)" works for me.  :)

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