Nobody Collects Exonumia?

Hi - I've been on Numista for a few years now, 100+ swaps, and I don't ever remember anybody requesting any of my exonumia.

Right now, I have 4 pieces of exonumia in my swap list, including a couple silver pieces like this one:

5 ECU - Baudouin I (Treaties of Rome) - Belgium – Numista

Yet it's like they don't exist. For all my swaps I can't remember anyone ever even asking for these.

I only put fairly interesting stuff on there, but still nothing. Thoughts?

I neither collect nor am I fond of what Numista calls exonumia. 
With that said, I think because of the nature of these objects they are far to diverse (we are already at the 100k mark and there are probably millions of these things as far as what Numista would allow to be listed right now). And to be quite honest they are quite niche in a somewhat niche hobby and with a relative small user base you will have only a small chance to find a suitable individual in search for a particular item. It seems to me it is essentially a dumping ground for what ever people have lying about or acquired with other purchases.

I have numerous swaps that included exonumia on Numista, both giving and receiving. The fact 100K items have been listed shows there are folks out there that collect these items.  There does seem to be a trend to trade exonumia for like items (as I’ve found with coins and currency as well), so don’t expect to get 2 Euro coins for tourist tokens and medals, but there are collectors interested in these items. 

I like to collect touristic tokens mainly from the “monnaie de Paris”

Transportation a dn telephon tokens

For sure Numista tokens and some other tokens

I know Numista collectors who can spend hundreds of euros for french advertising tokens from the beginning of the 20th century.

When you collect only coins from your country and that you've already got all these coins … you switch to tokens 😜

I don't collect Exonumia, but I have some in my swap list I'd gladly swap for coins.

I collect exonomia, but I don't swap.

Interesting replies so far… I hope to read more!

Meanwhile, I've collected exonumia and ephemera off and on for many years.

Always loved tokens and high-quality medals like those from Medallic Art Company, Wittenauer, Franklin Mint etc.

I sold a ton of transit tokens and similar pieces over the last few years to raise funds for my core collection of world silver coins.

But I find it curious that for all my swaps nobody ever asks for my exonumia, not even the silver pieces!

Everybody wants my silver coins but not my silver exonumia. Very strange to me.

TCon

Hi - I've been on Numista for a few years now, 100+ swaps, and I don't ever remember anybody requesting any of my exonumia.

 

Kind regards.

I already posted the SWAP here and it wasn't that long ago.

This collector just wanted exonumia, I didn't even know what to choose when he had nothing but a few American coins in his collection.

I chose one cent.

And I wrote to him that the value of these toys is only on him.

At only sends me pennies and some quarters, I left it up to him, however, you can see that the large tokens of the GDR cities -I didn't send it to him and I didn't give it to him - he wouldn't be able to properly evaluate them. They have their value on the web.

You know, sometimes it's stupid for me to bargain, especially when the tokens have no value and no price.

Hi Ivan, I don't have any more tokens, I have GDR city medals left.

But I find it curious that for all my swaps nobody ever asks for my exonumia, not even the silver pieces!

Could be the settings. I only have coins and banknotes selected, when I search your swap list exonumia will not show up.
You can only suggest potential swap partners, that like silver in any form, on unbalanced swaps to take a look over your exonumia as well.

I do collect one type of exonumia (and that along my general lines of collecting): tokens that were used as means of purchasing goods or services (AKA money 😊). 

While notgeld, Conder tokens and a few others are categorized as “coins”, other, that had the same usage, are under "exonumia". Go figure. 

Dejan

I do collect one type of exonumia (and that along my general lines of collecting): tokens that were used as means of purchasing goods or services (AKA money 😊). 

While notgeld, Conder tokens and a few others are categorized as “coins”, other, that had the same usage, are under "exonumia". Go figure. 

 

We may not agree to these distinctions, but be assured there are serious discussions about these things among our colleagues here who decide one or the other way, and move on to the next matter. 

There are a few items filed under exonumia on numista which I do have in my banknote collection, as I regard them as banknotes - not quite the same as collecting  exonumia, I suppose.

I have quite a few pieces of Exonumia some very Rare the Curzon Wyllie being one of them and as its not legal tender Exonumia is the perfect place for it to be. I have 348 pieces in my collection and think this part of Numista is well worth while.

I tend to focus on stuff related to Asia particularly Japan & Korea,

I own a few pieces of exonumia from Japan (A seller I am pretty loyal to buying from calls it “Ezeni”) this one according to a article Idolenz linked me commerates the Iwami Ginza mines by replicating a historical Gin-Ban.

Though sadly I do not swap or trade for personal reasons, but Exonumia is definitely a valid collection target for me.

It would be a good idea to split Exonumia into Local Currencies and Exonumia. So that coins used for circulation like German emergency money, Dutch Florins issued by towns and cities for temporary use in local shops and wage tokens get the status they deserve: circulating coins used as money to buy basically anything available in local stores (so no coffee tokens and no fantasy currency just made for collectors like those shiny Greenland coins). These coins already have a place among circulating coins from countries in my collection, though generally I don't specifically look to buy them.

A Jewish coin dealer in the Netherlands once told me Israeli telephone tokens at some point were used as money to deal with the high inflation, as they had the fixed value of making one telephone call. Such coins might require a special reference. It may not be easy to work this all out, but it is worth the effort I think.

What are your thoughts on this?

I collect Exonumia more than I do coins, I love historical medals and I collect naval themed medals and tokens.

this one here from 1655 probably being my favorite piece in my collection

Im also not using Numista for swapping

N#187292

 A nice medal. ‘Nobody Collects Exonumia’? - I do, and some of mine also have ships. 

As far as I know none of these tokens of mine are on here yet, last time I checked … 

… and so on. Yes I love Exonumia and collect it. ⛵ 

Those are super 🤗 To mee there is just so much history in some of these older medals.

here I have a real piece of English history with this silver medal of Charles I and the english civil war and the declaration of the parliament in 1642

N#147152

Love also the engraved art on some of these medals, such as here on a Medal from 2005 engraved by the Artist Malcolm Appleby

https://scottish-gallery.co.uk/artists/malcolm-appleby/#:~:text=Malcolm%20Appleby%20was%20born%20in,lovely%20material%20to%20work%20with.”

N#237359

sorry again with me its als Ship and naval related. But thats the wonderful thing that you can collect whatever you like.

Greetings to all collectors of exonumia and coins, medals and tokens.

   I like how someone develops a profile and collects "boats", especially historical ones. I can't profile myself yet, I also like simple small bronze coins of the Hellenic type, where after two and a half thousand years in circulation, not even the figure of the goddess can be seen. And at the same time, I also do not despise an investment gold coin or a nice proff silver. However, my love continues to be American cents - I'm just unlucky that you can't reasonably buy or exchange them due to the cost of shipping.

An example of today's photo shoot and a bit of our exonumism paradox (I will describe a numismatic peculiarity) is the latest exonumia:

Tolar - Czech Republic
How did Jáchymov tolars become US dollars? This incredible story will remind you of the investment coins of the Czech Mint dated 2022 minted from one twenty-fifth of a troy ounce of pure gold.

A lightning rod, ship screw, blood groups, genetics, contact lenses, sugar cubes or the word robot - all these are the work of our ingenious compatriots. But it's a little-known fact that we also gave the world its best-known and most recognized currency. Which one is it? A dollar! Somewhere in Texas, no one probably knows that the roots of their famous currency go back to a mountain town in a small country in the heart of Europe. That is why it is worth remembering the forgotten Czech heritage, the history of which began to be written five hundred years ago... The Jáchymovsk tolar was a silver coin that originated in the Czech Kingdom in 1520. The exceptionally high-quality currency spread throughout Europe and its success stimulated the minting of a number of imitations. The Czech tolar became, for example, the Dutch dollar

To commemorate this event, the Czech Mint issued exonumic collector medals of various weights in various issues

I believe in its growth investment potential

https://ceskamincovna.cz/zlata-1-25oz-investicni-mince-tolar-ceska-republika-2022-stand-1492-16011-d/

Gold 1/4oz investment coin Tolar - Czech Republic 2022 standard In stock Emission load 5000 pcs

ounce load 3000 pcs

ounce numbered Emission load 500 pcs

five-ounce Issue load 300 pcs

ten-ounce investment Issue load 150 pcs

Gold kilogram investment coin Tolar - Czech Republic 2022 stand Emission load 25 pcs------------Unfortunately I don't have one, I would send you one.

( And the paradox is that this coin was brought to me by the post office without a box, certificate of authenticity and only in a capsule)

On the contrary, the exonumia that arrived together with this gold coin are beautifully packed in a box, with a certificate of authenticity.

It is beautifully emphasized that the metal is "Nordic gold", so that there is no doubt about such wonderful Tokens
Even the word Token is emphasized there - which is not common:

product description
The joint pilgrimage of Czechs and Slovaks through history lasted 75 years. It was full of joys and sorrows, we shared many losses but also victories, and although our paths eventually parted, we are still close to each other. And not just geographically - our cultures, languages, thinking and personalities are so similar that we will forever remain "brothers". The commemorative token, created on the occasion of the opening of the Slovak branch of the Czech Mint, is equally dedicated to the capitals of both Slavic nations – Bratislava and Prague.

and because she's pretty, two of them are exactly the same - she won't get lost at home - right?

https://ceskamincovna.cz/zeton-cesko-slovensky-stand-389-12399-d/

the last piece today too:

I know it's still the peak of summer here, but it's important to start preparing for the entire Christmas gift series.

Bethlehem
Every year, on Christmas Day, thousands of people symbolically join the shepherds of Bethlehem in celebrating the birth of God's son Jesus Christ, who came into the world as a herald of truth and love, which are the most beautiful and valuable Christmas gift. An expression of your love or affection for family members and friends can also become a new issue made of pure silver representing Baby Jesus in the manger. This is the first medal to introduce the attractive Betlém collectible series. As part of it, the Czech Mint will present all the key characters of the nativity scene through charming silver coins. The collection, which will be created after all the medals have been completed, will find its place in a unique folding collector's album in the form of Bethlehem.

https://ceskamincovna.cz/stribrna-medaile-jezisek-v-jeslickach-proof-1554-7754-d/

It's just in a particularly thick capsule and she couldn't get it out, so I took a picture of it through the plastic.

Also, there is some dust on the back - with a napkin and that's for proff- exonumia - they shouldn't send it like that.

Conclusion: Yes, I also love nice exonumia- however, an old unsightly bronze coin is a greater pleasure for me to revel in history.

Hi Ivan

These medals that have been shown are true pieces of art! People collecting those beauties are nothing short of sophisticated art collectors appreciating culture!
My late father left me a beautiful medal that I listed on Numista a few years back, his passion as a young man was aviation. I did not list it among my own coins on Numista yet (though I've been a member for some years now, I only started the massive task of registering my coin collection a couple of days ago), yet as it has index number 97 now, clearly someone has! (So far I don't recall seeing an index number between 97 and 100, a rarity score with a slightly different logarithmic scale from 1 to 1000 would be nice)

Anyway, here it is: N#227563

Edo Timmermans

It would be a good idea to split Exonumia into Local Currencies and Exonumia. So that coins used for circulation like German emergency money, Dutch Florins issued by towns and cities for temporary use in local shops and wage tokens get the status they deserve: circulating coins used as money to buy basically anything available in local stores (so no coffee tokens and no fantasy currency just made for collectors like those shiny Greenland coins). These coins already have a place among circulating coins from countries in my collection, though generally I don't specifically look to buy them.

A Jewish coin dealer in the Netherlands once told me Israeli telephone tokens at some point were used as money to deal with the high inflation, as they had the fixed value of making one telephone call. Such coins might require a special reference. It may not be easy to work this all out, but it is worth the effort I think.

 

What are your thoughts on this?

Notgeld are not exonomia in Numista, they are included in coins, under their respective countries, such as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/german-notgeld-1.html, and https://en.numista.com/catalogue/belgian_notgeld_section-1.html

Mr. Midnight

Edo Timmermans

It would be a good idea to split Exonumia into Local Currencies and Exonumia. So that coins used for circulation like German emergency money, Dutch Florins issued by towns and cities for temporary use in local shops and wage tokens get the status they deserve: circulating coins used as money to buy basically anything available in local stores (so no coffee tokens and no fantasy currency just made for collectors like those shiny Greenland coins). These coins already have a place among circulating coins from countries in my collection, though generally I don't specifically look to buy them.

A Jewish coin dealer in the Netherlands once told me Israeli telephone tokens at some point were used as money to deal with the high inflation, as they had the fixed value of making one telephone call. Such coins might require a special reference. It may not be easy to work this all out, but it is worth the effort I think.

 

What are your thoughts on this?

Notgeld are not exonomia in Numista, they are included in coins, under their respective countries, such as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/german-notgeld-1.html, and https://en.numista.com/catalogue/belgian_notgeld_section-1.html

 

Thank you for correcting me. This actually makes me think that any local currency should be moved to the coin section from Exonumia, given that such coins would be listed there as tokens so that people can easily filter them out. 

Some notgeld coins (but not all, what is the difference? is it the heritage of previous confusion?) are listed as tokens, like all of the Belgian notgeld coins, as well as some of the German notgeld coins. It is easy to find them by only selecting tokens for some nation in the Coin section. My own thought is that notgeld should be listed as local currency, which is a more general description, that would include for example the Dutch local florin coins.

Even fantasy currency just created for a collecting purpose (though personally I don't like such coins) could be listed in the coin section with an extra ‘fantasy issue’ filter option. That would make the split between Coins and Exonumia much easier to define:

Coin: any coin with a numeral currency value, where a currency is meant for general trade

Exonumia: any coin alike objects with some non-currency value like a cup of coffee, a telephone call or the rememberance of an event

ZacUK

 A nice medal. ‘Nobody Collects Exonumia’? - I do, and some of mine also have ships. 

 

AHOJ   -,, originally from Latin
The first version of the origin of the word "Hello" says that it is simply an abbreviation. The words "Ad honorem Jesu" (Czech "To the glory of Jesus!") were said to be shouted in Latin by skilled sailors. After all, life at sea was not a village for the faint of heart!,,

I remembered when I was looking for something on our website - unfortunately it is already sold out and not in stock, and the price is definitely high when it comes to gold. However, the ships on these coins are really historic with collectors. So just for the pleasure of the eye.

set of medals:

Ahoj