Sweden 2 kronor 2019: Round vs. Oval zero

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I have just sent a change request for the catalogue referee, but I just wanted to announce it here as well so everyone can see it.

 

There has been a new discovery of the Swedish 2 kronor coin, and that is that the zero in the date 2019 is either round or oval. A theory is that the oval zero is more uncommon, and possibly from the first batch they strike. I guess only time will tell if this is accurate or not.

 

Here's a picture of the two zero's:

Round left, Oval right

 

Happy collecting!

ngdawa

I have just sent a change request for the catalogue referee, but I just wanted to announce it here as well so everyone can see it.

 

There has been a new discovery of the Swedish 2 kronor coin, and that is that the zero in the date 2019 is either round or oval. A theory is that the oval zero is more uncommon, and possibly from the first batch they strike. I guess only time will tell if this is accurate or not.

 

Here's a picture of the two zero's:

Round left, Oval right

 

Happy collecting!

I accepted, stupid that i didn't see this topic though!

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

In the oval version, the nine in ‘’19'' is also more ‘’oval'' than in the round version. Furthermore, if you look carefully, the ‘’S'' in Sveriges is nearer to the two (in 20) in the oval version than in the narrow version. in the round  version than in the oval version.

Here two examples from my collection:

A documentation already made a long time ago!

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Sjoelund

A documentation already made a long time ago!

The coins are minted by the Royal Dutch Mint. Don't know about a Finnish mint. Will investigate further. 😊

redlock

In the oval version, the nine in ‘’19'' is also more ‘’oval'' than in the narrow version. Furthermore, if you look carefully, the ‘’S'' in Sveriges is nearer to the two (in 20) in the oval version than in the narrow version.

Here two examples from my collection:

I'd say the opposite. The round O version has the S closer to the 2 than the oval version. 🤷‍♂️

ngdawa

redlock

In the oval version, the nine in ‘’19'' is also more ‘’oval'' than in the narrow version. Furthermore, if you look carefully, the ‘’S'' in Sveriges is nearer to the two (in 20) in the oval version than in the narrow version.

Here two examples from my collection:

I'd say the opposite. The round O version has the S closer to the 2 than the oval version. 🤷‍♂️

Of course, you are right. 😳 I adjusted my post.

redlock

ngdawa

redlock

In the oval version, the nine in ‘’19'' is also more ‘’oval'' than in the narrow version. Furthermore, if you look carefully, the ‘’S'' in Sveriges is nearer to the two (in 20) in the oval version than in the narrow version.

Here two examples from my collection:

I'd say the opposite. The round O version has the S closer to the 2 than the oval version. 🤷‍♂️

Of course, you are right. 😳 I adjusted my post.

No worries. 🙂

I have contacted Riksbanken to try to get more detailed information about the varieties. Will report here when I get a satisfying reply. 😁

ngdawa

I have contacted Riksbanken to try to get more detailed information about the varieties. Will report here when I get a satisfying reply. 😁

 

Good luck with that one (and I mean it, there's no irony) considering how secretive Riksbank can be. Remember, the mintage of the 2016-dated coins is still a secret.

It is known from reports/publications, deeply buried on the Riksbank's web-site, that the 2019-dated 2kr coins were paid in two separate  batches. This probably means they were also minted in two separated batches at two different times.

In any case, keep us posted.

redlock

ngdawa

I have contacted Riksbanken to try to get more detailed information about the varieties. Will report here when I get a satisfying reply. 😁

 

Good luck with that one (and I mean it, there's no irony) considering how secretive Riksbank can be. Remember, the mintage of the 2016-dated coins is still a secret.

It is known from reports/publications, deeply buried on the Riksbank's web-site, that the 2019-dated 2kr coins were paid in two separate  batches. This probably means they were also minted in two separated batches at two different times.

In any case, keep us posted.

Yepp, that's the Swedish bureaucracy for you! 😉

I wrote them a veeery long e-mail full of enthusiasm, so I hope that will spread to the reader(s) and hopefully they will reveal at least something helpful. 😅

The modified documentation?

 

Do you agree? 

Who will make the CR using this graphic?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Sjoelund

The modified documentation?

 

Do you agree? 

Who will make the CR using this graphic?

Unless it's akready done, CR made.

Validated :)!

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

Sjoelund

The modified documentation?

 

Do you agree? 

Who will make the CR using this graphic?

 

Spelled Round wrong.

RegularCoiner

Validated :)!

The existing Round/Oval documentation should have been deleted since the new one makes it unnecessary/redundant. 

rsirian1

RegularCoiner

Validated :)!

The existing Round/Oval documentation should have been deleted since the new one makes it unnecessary/redundant. 

Done!

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

rsirian1

Sjoelund

The modified documentation?

 

Do you agree? 

Who will make the CR using this graphic?

 

Spelled Round wrong.

I will leave that to Sjoelund.

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

RegularCoiner

rsirian1

Sjoelund

The modified documentation?

 

Do you agree? 

Who will make the CR using this graphic?

 

Spelled Round wrong.

I will leave that to Sjoelund.

I thought the CR had been validated already, so what do you to leave to me?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

That “round” was spelled wrong on the graphic.

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

Here it is again

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Added.

I think that concludes this thread.

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

RegularCoiner

Added.

I think that concludes this thread.

Thank you!

No problem :)!

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

I have just revieved a reply from Riksbanken according the 2019 variety.

The reply gave no new information.

 

Original reply:

Hej,
Vi ber om ursäkt för att svaret dröjt, men vår expert på området har varit på semester. 2019 producerade Riksbanken 40 miljoner stycken 2-kronor. Samtliga 2-kronor präglades i Nederländerna hos KNM och samma originalverktyg har använts. Vi har inte sett några avvikande valörsiffror på mynten i vår kvalitetskontroll. Vi kontrollerar ett urval av mynten men kan såklart inte kontrollera varje mynt. 
Med vänlig hälsning,
Riksbankens kommunikationsenhet

 

English version:

Hi,

We apologise for a late reply, but our experts has been on vacation. In 2019 Riksbanken produced 40 million pieces of the 2 kronor coin. All of these were struck by KNM in the Netherlands, and the same original tools has been used. We have not seen any deviant denomination figures on the coins in our quality control. We check a selection of the coins but of course cannot check every coin. Sincerely

The Riksbank's communications unit

 

I have sent them a reply, as well as pictures of my coins with the two varieties, as well as the illustration from the coin page.

Thanks for the update.

Hmm.. There are very clearly two varieties though.

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

Unfortunately, I do not speak or understand Swedish. 

I let google translate Riksbank's answer into German (and Dutch). I think, the person answering the question did not fully understand the question. Obviously, there is nothing wrong with either variety. Therefore, quality control could not detect anything. But it's clear that two different coin blanks/dies were used.

Hopefully, Riksbank will be able and willing to answer more with the additional information sent by ngdawa.

RegularCoiner

Hmm.. There are very clearly two varieties though.

Exactly! And I did send them pictures as well + the Numista illustration made by Ole. But what we did learn is that all 40 million coin were struck at the same mint.

redlock

Unfortunately, I do not speak or understand Swedish.

I did also post an English translation. I just thought that even if you speak Swedish or not, it could be nice to post the original answer as well, not just a translation.

 

It'll be interesting to see what they say when they have reviewed the pictures I sent them.

ngdawa

redlock

Unfortunately, I do not speak or understand Swedish.

I just thought that even if you speak Swedish or not, it could be nice to post the original answer as well, not just a translation.

 

I really appreciate your posting of the original Swedish respose by Riksbank. Because of it I was able to read a German and Dutch version of it (both made by google). They are both slightly, just slightly, different from the English. Yet, they make it clear to me that the person answering your questions did not really understand what you meant.

 

As I have said I am looking forward to Riksbank's response of your reply. 

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