new mintage line for Australia 2022 Christmas Beetle 50c coin [solved]

Please add another line to the mintage list for a PNC version of this coin, mintage limited to 7,500.

Thanks and regards

When added don't use PNC in the description, that's not on the list of abbreviations allowed in Numista.

(Even though it seems to be used quite a bit, whatever is means.)

ghiukhoon, Mintage line is added.

bjherbison - PNC means Postal Numismatic Cover which if you bothered to have a look at some of the coins that are allocated to them would have been obvious.

PNC's are big things in Australia and many many coin collectors collect them. They attract a premium numismatic value compared to the same coin not issued in a PNC.

There are standard PNC's issued by Australia Post and special ones issued at various ANDA Coin events that are limited to very low numbers. These special ones are very highly collectible and attract in some cases very high prices.

Here is a typical ebay listing for a very rare one >>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/166233834914

And another one >>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256100162329

Mike

brismike

bjherbison - PNC means Postal Numismatic Cover which if you bothered to have a look at some of the coins that are allocated to them would have been obvious.

Could you explain how it would have been obvious?

I looked at several before I replied, and it did seem to be some sort of coin in a card but didn't see an explanation. Just now I went back to the pages I looked at before and none of the listings even had the word “postal”.

There are 14 entries matching Postal Numismatic Cover (just a search for the words, I didn't verify the phrase was present), and 537 results for PNC. Which means at least 95% of the pages don't explain PNC.

Well I think “Issued by Australia Post” might have given it away. I suppose United States Post does not do anything like that so maybe I was a bit harsh on you. Apologies for that.

PNC's are quite a big thing here in Australia. You can buy them direct online from Aussie Post or at your local Post Office. Every year usually in November they do an “Impressions” series where very limited numbered editions are issued. To get one you have to go in a ballot and hope you get picked.

Also at each yearly Money Expo (Coin Show) run in each of the Major States, Western Australia, Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria the local ANDA (Australian Numismatic Dealers Association) authorises a special overprinted limited edition PNC for attendees of the show to buy. They get snapped up in minutes. People queue up from the early hours to get in line for one.

So basically the Royal Australian Mint and Australia Post collaborate to issue these PNC's to collectors. Some people only collect them and not general issue coins. Some, like me get both, but I do not get them all because to do so would make me broke. 

Hope that explains it all a bit for you.

Cheers Mike  

Thank you for the response.

What can we do to make that information easier to find for users of Numista?

When I search for PNC outside of Numista I get PNC bank, even “PNC coins” still shows the bank, and then I find Philatelic Numismatic Covers which isn't what these are. (I'm searching from inside the United States – I expect the results will be significantly different from Australia, or in any country without a PNC bank.)

bjherbison

(I'm searching from inside the United States – I expect the results will be significantly different from Australia, or in any country without a PNC bank.)

Interesting when searching from the US with a VPN in Australia:

Every link is .au except one that for Aussie Coins and Notes. Google knows you are in Australia.

Quite a bit different from my start, even when I search “PNC coins”:

brismike

 

So basically the Royal Australian Mint and Australia Post collaborate to issue these PNC's to collectors. 

One small correction to my above statement ... Not only the RAM (Royal Australian Mint) but the Perth Mint also collaborate with Australia Post to issue these PNC's. 

Australia Post use the Perth Mint $1 coins quite a bit in their PNC's. Interestingly not many of you might actually know but Perth Mint Aluminium-bronze $1 coins are a different size to the Royal Australian Mint $1 coins.

RAM $1 are 25 mm Diameter, 9 gram weight. 

Perth Mint $1 are 30.7 mm Diameter, 13.5 gram weight. 

The RAM $1 coins are the legal tender normal standard size, Perth Mint $1 are oversized as shown but are also legal tender. You will never find one in change though, only in PNC's and some coincards. If you tried to use one in a shop you would probably encounter resistance.

Australia Post only once in 2013 issued a dual coin PNC that had a RAM coin and a Perth Mint coin. These were the coins in it.

N#209170

N#72922

Just to add to all the above, Australia Post also issues PMC's … Postal Medallion Covers. These contain Medals/Tokens instead of legal tender coins. So basically instead of a coin they have Exonumia. I have a few of them too and have added many of them to Numista in the Exonumia section. This is an example …. N#311188

One other small thing, PNC can also be short for Philatelic Numismatic Cover as well as the more common name Postal Numismatic Cover

They are basically the same thing. Australians are always abbreviating everything.

Cheers Mike