Spanish 1904 50 Centimos - *04 vs *10 [solved]

Hello

I have one of the coins N#3155 in question and noticed there are 2 varieties, *04 and *10. I identified mine as *10 based on the numbers in the stars on the obverse, but wanted to know what this symbolises.

On later Spanish currency, it symbolises the mint year, but both of the entries on Numista are listed as 1904. Can anyone help with this?

Many thanks

Edit: I answered this myself. Please ignore - not sure I can delete the post now.  

PC V and SM V are different?

Hi Maxxirb2,

Fine that you find the answer by yourself.

You asked me to delete your post but I consider it could be of certain help for other members sharing the same concern.

Would you please be kind enough to explain what you find and how / where you find the answer ?

Thanks,

vp

Hi VP.

Sure – please see Luca's answer. PC V and SM V indicate different mint officials, as per the Numista page. 10 appears on the PC V coins and 04 on the SM V. This difference is enough to satisfy me when categorising the coins in my collection, but I don't know why the numbers 04 and 10 were chosen, so in a way, I don't have an answer to the question I asked, but maybe I could have phrased it better.

I have marked as unsolved in case anyone can explain the choice of numbers in the star, as I now agree, it might be useful to know.

Hi Mahxirb2,

Thanks for answering.

In certain period, for an unknowkn reason, the spanish mints chose to put in clear the year of the type (from 1868 to 1982) and the year of the strike in a small star, sometimes in the two stars (for instance 19 in the first star and 82 in the second).

I personally get my information with regards to the spanish coins from that website: https://catalogodemonedas.es/?q=catalogo

Thanks VP.

If it the case that the numbers in the stars on this coin represent mintage year, would it not be better for the catalogue to display the years as 1904 (1904) and 1904 (1910), meaning the mintage years would be shown as 1904-1910? Currently, the actual mintage year is just displayed as a comment.

This would be aligned to the more recent Pesetas, using this N#1884 as an example. All of the later Spanish coins with this dating method follow this example.

I am not aware how the catalogue functions.

The usual way used in spain is to define the coins as follows:

50 Céntimos de Peseta 1949 *19-51 Madrid.

or

50 céntimos de Peseta 1892 *9*2 Madrid PG M.

I'm still not totally clear on this particular coin. Were the *10 coins minted in 1910?

If so should the dates of issue for this coin be 1904-1910?

Thank you

quick silver

I'm still not totally clear on this particular coin. Were the *10 coins minted in 1910?

 

If so should the dates of issue for this coin be 1904-1910?

Thank you

Yes. The 10 indicates those coins were issued in 1910. And look at the dates for the marks.

C Rafael Caro y Fresneda, Assayer, Royal Mint of Madrid (1910-1914, 1925-1928)

Ok, thank you.

Why are the dates not reflected in the coin description on Numista?

Regards

Lee

The information isn't there because no one added it. It would be useful to have text in the comments section saying the large date on the coin is the date of authorization and the last two digits of the date of issue are in the stars.

Feel free to add that information. Just edit the page and add a description to the Comment field. Once the text is approved similar text can be added to many other Spanish coins.