Position A/B on Belgian coins [solved]

Krause (2019 SCWC 1901-200, 46th ed.) generally says for Belgian coins:

Position A: Coins with portrait side down having upright edge lettering

Position B: Coins with portrait side up having upright edge lettering

Concerning Belgian 20 & 50 Franc coins as examples below but probably true for others:

N#493

N#494

N#2138

N#7421

N#7141

N#8310

Numista says:

Reverse: Head of King XX facing XX, with surrounding XX text, designer name below - I.e. Reverse = portrait side

Position A: The edge lettering reads normally when the reverse side faces up.
Position B: The edge lettering reads upside down when the reverse side faces up.

So Numista and Krause say the exact opposite of each other on these. 

Then looking at older Belgian 5 Franc coins:

N#255

Obverse: Head of King Leopold I of Belgium facing left, with sideburns, wearing an oak wreath tied with a ribbon behind. Legend in French.

Reverse: Inscription in three lines. Five-pointed star below. Oak wreath around with leaves and acorns. (note: includes value)

POSITION A - Edge lettering reads normally when the side with the denomination on it faces up.
POSITION B - Edge lettering reads upside-down when the side with the denomination on it faces up.

Here Numista and Krause agree.

N#276

Reverse: Effigy of King Leopold II facing left, legend in French surrounding, designer at bottom

Obverse: Belgian coat of arms within wreath dividing the value, motto in French above, year below.

Position A: reverse (value) facing up, text on edge is normal.
Position B: reverse (value) facing up, text on edge is upside-down.

So which is it, reverse or value?

At this point I just give up … what's going on here?

Best,

53th0s

53th0s

Krause (2019 SCWC 1901-200, 46th ed.) generally says for Belgian coins:

Position A: Coins with portrait side down having upright edge lettering

Position B: Coins with portrait side up having upright edge lettering

 

 

Concerning Belgian 20 & 50 Franc coins as examples below but probably true for others:

N#493

N#494

N#2138

N#7421

N#7141

N#8310

 

Numista says:

Reverse: Head of King XX facing XX, with surrounding XX text, designer name below - I.e. Reverse = portrait side

Position A: The edge lettering reads normally when the reverse side faces up.
Position B: The edge lettering reads upside down when the reverse side faces up.

 

So Numista and Krause say the exact opposite of each other on these. 

 

Then looking at older Belgian 5 Franc coins:

 

N#255

Obverse: Head of King Leopold I of Belgium facing left, with sideburns, wearing an oak wreath tied with a ribbon behind. Legend in French.

Reverse: Inscription in three lines. Five-pointed star below. Oak wreath around with leaves and acorns. (note: includes value)

POSITION A - Edge lettering reads normally when the side with the denomination on it faces up.
POSITION B - Edge lettering reads upside-down when the side with the denomination on it faces up.

 

Here Numista and Krause agree.

 

N#276

Reverse: Effigy of King Leopold II facing left, legend in French surrounding, designer at bottom

Obverse: Belgian coat of arms within wreath dividing the value, motto in French above, year below.

Position A: reverse (value) facing up, text on edge is normal.
Position B: reverse (value) facing up, text on edge is upside-down.

 

So which is it, reverse or value?

 

At this point I just give up … what's going on here?

 

Best,

53th0s

Just believe Krause, Numista copied the information from there and not always correctly, sorry numista!

KM:

Thanks Sjoelund. I've made edit suggestions on maybe 10 coins. Most are reeded anyway, and the older coins (i.e. Leopold I & II 5 franc) were already ok.

53th0s

Krause (2019 SCWC 1901-200, 46th ed.) generally says for Belgian coins:

Position A: Coins with portrait side down having upright edge lettering

Position B: Coins with portrait side up having upright edge lettering

 

 

Concerning Belgian 20 & 50 Franc coins as examples below but probably true for others:

N#493

N#494

N#2138

N#7421

N#7141

N#8310

 

Numista says:

Reverse: Head of King XX facing XX, with surrounding XX text, designer name below - I.e. Reverse = portrait side

Position A: The edge lettering reads normally when the reverse side faces up.
Position B: The edge lettering reads upside down when the reverse side faces up.

 

So Numista and Krause say the exact opposite of each other on these. 

 

Then looking at older Belgian 5 Franc coins:

 

N#255

Obverse: Head of King Leopold I of Belgium facing left, with sideburns, wearing an oak wreath tied with a ribbon behind. Legend in French.

Reverse: Inscription in three lines. Five-pointed star below. Oak wreath around with leaves and acorns. (note: includes value)

POSITION A - Edge lettering reads normally when the side with the denomination on it faces up.
POSITION B - Edge lettering reads upside-down when the side with the denomination on it faces up.

 

Here Numista and Krause agree.

 

N#276

Reverse: Effigy of King Leopold II facing left, legend in French surrounding, designer at bottom

Obverse: Belgian coat of arms within wreath dividing the value, motto in French above, year below.

Position A: reverse (value) facing up, text on edge is normal.
Position B: reverse (value) facing up, text on edge is upside-down.

 

So which is it, reverse or value?

 

At this point I just give up … what's going on here?

 

Best,

53th0s

I fixed a bunch of these a few weeks ago, but it seems like I missed a few. Thanks for doing the rest!