Census for NGC shipwreck coins? [solved]

Hi all, 

I've been looking at East India Company coins from the 1809 Admiral Gardener shipwreck, and they seem to be fairly abundant in NGC holders - at least the plain ‘genuine’ ones. Usually for slabbed coins the grading companies have census data available,  but I can't seem to find any information about how many of those shipwreck coins there are. Any ideas where I should be looking?     

Many thanks in advance! 

Coin in question: N#42953

https://www.ebay.de/itm/234989239403?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=707-127634-2357-0&ssspo=x2gh1nvttte&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=x4mwjMQiTe-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

NGC 119

https://www.ngccoin.com/details-census/world/india-british-colonial/sc-163/10cash/ 

Thanks, that site I saw, but given the numbers it looks to me like those may not include the shipwreck coins, or at least there is no indication for the ones below shipwreck effect C which only get ‘genuine’ but no grade asigned.

Also given how many NGC ‘genuine’ are on sale all over the internet right now, they can't be included in those figures unless I'm missing something. 

The one for which I linked ebay for instance: 

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2035154-034/Other/

Grade ‘genuine’. It says there are 25 in higher grades, but also that just confuses me given the census page.  

I don't know.  There were “millions” of coins in the shipwreck.

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic122768.html

rsirian1

I don't know.  There were “millions” of coins in the shipwreck.

 

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic122768.html

I get that there are loads of the coins around. Just how many of those ended up in NGC slabs?

I don't know.

They are pretty abundant. 

NGC and other grading companies have no reason or motivation to create a special census or category for every conceivable circumstance considered unusual.

46 tons of 10 and 20 cash coins, The photo shows a picture of only one barrel out of many found.

https://goodwinsands.org.uk/admiral-gardner/

harryg

NGC and other grading companies have no reason or motivation to create a special census or category for every conceivable circumstance considered unusual.

 

46 tons of 10 and 20 cash coins, The photo shows a picture of only one barrel out of many found.

 

https://goodwinsands.org.uk/admiral-gardner/

You're right. I asked them and got this response:

"Unfortunately, we do not list coins graded as "genuine" only on our NGC census and we have no way of internally finding this information. We're genuinely sorry for any inconvenience this may cause. It looks like at the time, the original owner of this coin submitted it to only receive a "genuine" or "not genuine" grade, so there is not much further information we are able to provide on this. We're genuinely sorry for any inconvenience this may cause."

Grow the amount of coins I see for sale from that ship wreck she must have been bigger than the USS Gerald Ford