South Africa 2003 20c - Large & Small Lettering [solved]

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Different size lettering on the 2003 20 cent from South Africa, both Obverse and Reverse, as well as better defined detain on some parts of one coin in comparison to the other.  Initials on Reverse are smaller and better defined on the coin with the larger lettering, but the detail on the numbers ‘20c’ is less well defined, despite the obvious wear.

 

Amateur coin collector with some tokens

I think some of the differences might be caused by die wear, but they are clearly different dies. The easiest difference to spot for me is the position of Borwa. Draw a horizontal line through the center of the diamond shape on the chest of the eagle. For one of the coins the line hits the left side of the “w” and for the other coin it hits the right side.

Not sure that this is anything to do with wear at all.  I'll try to take some better photos, but this appears to be a much clearer example of a variation than many other miniscule differences already being listed (*i.e. A + B dies on Swiss Coins).  

 

I wonder if our referee for South Africa may have a contact at the mint that produces these coins so that this might be verified.  I'm already checking other dates, but only have a limited number of duplicates (100s rather than 1000s)

Amateur coin collector with some tokens

The difference is very clear, especially on the Borwa.

-Dan

Thanks Dan

 

I think this should be added to the catalogue.  Do I need to submit a separate page or can the original be adapted to include this variation?

 

LDC

Amateur coin collector with some tokens

It should be on the same page – it the same design but a variation.

 

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Change submitted

Amateur coin collector with some tokens

Change submitted - hopefully with better photos from my son's phone camera.

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inc7007

The difference is very clear, especially on the Borwa.

Hi Dan,

 

which software did you use to make that original .gif, I suppose? It's much better than those I can make with PhotoScape, or maybe I just have an old version?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Hi Ole,

Made the gif with the very old, Jasc Animation Shop 3.

-Dan

Thanks Dan,

 

I'm downloading it, and then I'll play round with it a bit.

 

Ole

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

something like this

 

 

Still need to figure it out in detail.

 

You would not know how to do this? https://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins-obverses-comparison.php?denomination=25-cents

 

Ole

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

That link uses code to display two images, so you can't make it as a gif.

But you can use Animation Shop to transition between the two photos.

Various animations are available, but I do like the clock wipe effect.

All kinds of things are possible if you play with it for a while…

 

-Dan

LDC63

Change submitted - hopefully with better photos from my son's phone camera.

If you want to, you can use this graphic:

 

Happy Easter to all

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Hi Oli

 

Doesn't look like they've used your graphic (???).  It seems perfect to me.

 

LDC

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