What is "overprinted" [solved]

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How far do we go with the term “overprinted” in manufacturing techniques?

 

These notes got stamps added:

Slovakia provisional issues 1993 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=slovaquie&r=provisional&ct=banknote&im1=&im2=&tbb=y&tbc=y&tbl=y&tbt=y&cat=y&ru=&ca=931&no=&v=&i=&b=&ib=&u=&a=&dg=&m=&f=&t=&t2=&mt=&g=&se=&d=&c=&wi=&sw=)

 

Instead of adding another techniques, I would consider it “overprinted” if only with a stamp instead of with inkt directly on the notes. Please vote up or down ;-)

Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!

An overprint on a banknote is an additional printing on the note after its primary normal printing is complete.
It can be any alteration from a formal additional printing to an official stamp, sometimes on an earlier issue.

 

Occasionally there are additions to the design of notes which are not overprints but are integral parts of the design. These are often referred to as overprints by us collectors, especially if they are transient and discontinued subsequently.

Those Czech notes are not overprinted. 

The addition of an adhesive stamp on the note isn't an overprint on the note as it is not an additional printing on the note.

Hibernia

Those Czech notes are not overprinted. 

The addition of an adhesive stamp on the note isn't an overprint on the note as it is not an additional printing on the note.

I understand what you are saying, but the question is … do we then add a new “printing technique” to the list (eg. “stamp added”) to differentiate these notes or do we just broaden the use of “overprinted” to “modified” so we can include more techniques that modified an original note to become a new one …

 

what other modifications are out there to create new types?
- overprint (already available)
- perforated (already available)

- hand stamped
- adhesive stamp added
- signature added (some Brazilian notes I think, cannot find them right now)
- cut in half (Greece) (if it is the technique “cut”, then it is not being used correctly at this time

- …

Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!

I think the following could certainly apply:
- hand stamped
- adhesive stamp added [Hungarian and Czech notes, that I know of]
- cut in half [this would also apply to some Polish notes]

Hello!

Do we have anything else to consider here in this forum or do we already have a broader understanding of what an "overprint" would be? =)

Vladimir
Catalogue Administrator and Banknote Master Referee.

I am unsure as to what decision was made, if any, on this.

Hibernia

I am unsure as to what decision was made, if any, on this.

I believe there was no verdict. =)

 

But the example cited at the beginning of the topic is intriguing, to say the least. Is "pasting" a stamp on a note considered "overprinted"? In my opinion, it sounds quite strange and I wouldn't consider it.

 

Can we think of something that would also deviate from the common idea of ​​"overprint"?

Vladimir
Catalogue Administrator and Banknote Master Referee.

Pasting a stamp is not “overprint” stricto senso

 

On the other hand it is one of the ways of modifying an existing note by adding (overprint, handstamp, stamp/sticker, signature, …) or removing (perforation, cutting in half, …) something to another previously existing banknote(type).

 

I'd like to find a solution that would suite to all the above modifications. Either lumping them all up ("modified note") or making separate (small) techniques to fit all of them. In the latter case we can of course still discuss how deep we dive into separation. I for one would not mind to lump all additions into an “overprint” or “addition” technique with a the wider definition (print, stamp, adhessive, signature, …) … in fact anything that is added to the note to distinguish it from the former type.

Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!

Whatever decision is made this page should be updated…Techniques – Numista

peterjhalford

Whatever decision is made this page should be updated…Techniques – Numista

 

 

Well remembered! We just need to keep in mind that the banknotes section in Numista is still quite new, compared to the coins section. Little by little and with a lot of conversation between us, one day we will also have this level of detail for the notes. =)

Vladimir
Catalogue Administrator and Banknote Master Referee.
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