If you thought zinc was a poor choice for coins......

How about coal?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36691.html

I think that it's long overdue for the UN to arrange an invasion and put some of these here Liberian fellers on trial for crimes against good taste.

Can you imagine a dozen or so Numismatists discussing their collections over a few cold ones and some poor guy admits to collecting Liberian coins? It would be like admitting to being a fan of Blackburn Rovers, Leicestershire CC or the Cleveland Indians.

No, I don't want one for Christmas.

Quote: pnightingaleHow about coal?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36691.html

I think that it's long overdue for the UN to arrange an invasion and put some of these here Liberian fellers on trial for crimes against good taste.

Can you imagine a dozen or so Numismatists discussing their collections over a few cold ones and some poor guy admits to collecting Liberian coins? It would be like admitting to being a fan of Blackburn Rovers, Leicestershire CC or the Cleveland Indians.

No, I don't want one for Christmas.

Blackburn lol ! sparky might end up back there !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ILbClByxuk

Liberia.

I must admit I am a sucker for early Liberian coinage (pre-1940), but now their prolific issues are making me crazy. Why does the Hungarian War of Independence matter to Liberia?

If you look at the top of the coin, you'll see the words Moments of Freedom. Liberia is proud of its origin as a country for freed slaves (hence it's name).
I don't like these types of commemoratives at all, but you have to admire the ideas behind capturing moments of freedom...as for the coal...not so good!

Manchukuo has clay of some sort. There's this bin in a local coinshop that's filled with Manchukuo clay coins that cracked and are split in two.

Quote: bam777If you look at the top of the coin, you'll see the words Moments of Freedom. Liberia is proud of its origin as a country for freed slaves (hence it's name).
I don't like these types of commemoratives at all, but you have to admire the ideas behind capturing moments of freedom...as for the coal...not so good!

Ironically one of the first acts of the newly arrived ex-slaves was to enslave the local population.

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Quote: bam777If you look at the top of the coin, you'll see the words Moments of Freedom. Liberia is proud of its origin as a country for freed slaves (hence it's name).
I don't like these types of commemoratives at all, but you have to admire the ideas behind capturing moments of freedom...as for the coal...not so good!

Ironically one of the first acts of the newly arrived ex-slaves was to enslave the local population.

Ha ha...nothing like saying the wrong thing then!

Quote: pnightingaleIf you thought zinc was a poor choice for coins......

Phil, since you keep harping on about zinc coins, I'm here to alleviate your dissatisfaction. Please set them aside for me and I'll continue making efforts to obtain them from you.

Like any other coin, there could be bags of worn out examples out there. The key is to acquire a nice example, instead of crying about rust or the dates always being worn off. In my book, hoarding crap is not the same as collecting.

I can't get over how attractive this poor choice of zinc you refer to, can be...



I group my zinc, zinc covered steel, steel and iron coins together.

Phil is starting to succumb to the UNC examples only I think lol, or so a few posts I have read lead me to believe !  

nice little collection, torontokuba

  the reason they make all this crap is because someone keeps buying it.

Quote: redsmithstudiosthe reason they make all this crap is because someone keeps buying it.

Are you jumping on the band wagon and trashing my zincs or referring to bags of worn out crap being marketed as bargains?

What crap does someone keep buying?

... and my collection is not little,  I think it's close to 90 coins in Zn/Fe/Steel.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Liberia crap, nevermind. it's hard to tell from the title, that the topic is also trashing something other than zincs. I only read titles and then begin my rants.

Now Jacob, behave.

I mean that zinc (and alumininium) is a poor choice of material for manufacturing coins, which is not the same as saying it's a poor choice for collecting them. I collect 3rd Reich coins so it's hard to avoid zinc issues for low denominations post 1939. I now have quite a few in EF - UNC and because they lack the crusty surface and uneven tones of the lower grades they are quite appealing. However because of the large number of mintmarks it's going to take a lifetime to put together a collection which I can live with.

You are more than welcome to the "coins with an unwise metal content" at any time. I have great admiration for anyone who can look beyond the superficial glamour and learn to love these poor ugly ducklings.

However, I still stand by my original assertion that the person who came up with the coal idea ought to be publically horsewhipped on the village green before Sunday Services. I have a bad feeling that this is no longer allowed in this PC, touchy feely age.

Quote: pnightingaleI mean that zinc (and alumininium) is a poor choice of material for manufacturing coins, which is not the same as saying it's a poor choice for collecting them.

I'm not a big fan of aluminum, but I manage to find the odd attractive and interesting one. I think Romania made the best of using such a cheap metal for some of their coins.

mancukuo had fibre coins...

I found an R.A.F. bakelite token the other day un-damaged thank the lord. I was considering buying it but went against it; I don't fancy asbestosis or increasing the risk any more than what I alredy have !

LOL, a real piece of coal in the coin? so now your money can literally go up in somke  

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Quote: redsmithstudiosthe reason they make all this crap is because someone keeps buying it.

Are you jumping on the band wagon and trashing my zincs or referring to bags of worn out crap being marketed as bargains?

What crap does someone keep buying?

... and my collection is not little,  I think it's close to 90 coins in Zn/Fe/Steel.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Liberia crap, nevermind. it's hard to tell from the title, that the topic is also trashing something other than zincs. I only read titles and then begin my rants.

 Yes, just the Liberian crap, not your historically significant zinc and irons, and I only meant your small collection of coins in the photo, 6

Quote: dptashnyI must admit I am a sucker for early Liberian coinage (pre-1940), but now their prolific issues are making me crazy. Why does the Hungarian War of Independence matter to Liberia?

  Hey, hey,...what is wrong with the Hungarian War of Independence?

I know this is an old topic, but I wouldn't mind one of these: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21790.html

And I do like good zinc coins as well.

Ah memories.

I do so enjoy crossing swords with that obstinate Polack who for some odd reason known only to himself just refuses to accept that I am right and he is wrong. Perhaps it's why we get along so very well, adult disagreements usually ending in a stalemate but no bitterness or rancour.

You've got to appreciate the history of these zinc coins, that's why I collect them. I have swapped and will continue to swap silver for good aluminium, zinc and iron coins. These "ugly ducklings" have brought me more collecting pleasure than UNC peace dollars ever have. It is a shame that you don't ship abroad, I would happily take some off your hands.

Aye, it's not lost on me. My point was that it was a poor choice of material by the issuing governments not for collectors. I have a half formed collection of Third Reich coins so it's hard to avoid the "materials of neccesity".

Here is a song for you which illustrates the point perfectly, I would happily trade my eye teeth for CSA coins no matter what material they were made from. Apart from silver coins struck in Lousiana using dies "borrowed" from the Northern Invaders, they are just about impossible to find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaZL5rvOJ_c&bpctr=1361406738

"Keep your Confederate money even if it's made of tin, keep all those crinolenes honey, the South shall rise again."


Hell yeah.

Quote: pnightingale"Keep your Confederate money even if it's made of tin, keep all those crinolenes honey, the South shall rise again."


Hell yeah.

Southern rebel detected    
On a serious note, I wouldn't mind having a coin or a banknote from Confederates myself. Too expensive for my anorexic wallet.

Confederate banknotes are as cheap as 5 bucks (florida tho... idk if that matters)

Quote: sccedaSouthern rebel detected    
On a serious note, I wouldn't mind having a coin or a banknote from Confederates myself. Too expensive for my anorexic wallet.

Your wallet can't be that anorexic. I've got this one and it only cost $30.00.

Quote: sccedaOn a serious note, I wouldn't mind having a coin or a banknote from Confederates myself. Too expensive for my anorexic wallet.

My wallet isn't Anorexic, it's haemopheliac, no matter how hard I try to stop it, money just keeps bleeding out of it.

Porcelain  anyone "oops " 17 divided by 20 = 1.176 marks each piece

plus cannot find this in the listings

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Quote: sccedaSouthern rebel detected    
On a serious note, I wouldn't mind having a coin or a banknote from Confederates myself. Too expensive for my anorexic wallet.

Your wallet can't be that anorexic. I've got this one and it only cost $30.00.

OK, I'll put it differently: the coins always take precedence over any banknotes for me; hence, my wallet is still anorexic untill I can get all the coins I want.  

ya, thats tru...

Hey, i have the same type of 5$ confed bill... in very poor condition tho.

I've got a few bond receipts from Virginia and Alabama but no banknotes yet and certainly no coins.

I will however be getting the Stone Mountain half dollar with Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson on it for my birthday. Is there anything better than a beatiful green eyed redheaded Southern Belle who buys you coins?

Quote: pnightingaleIs there anything better than a beatiful green eyed redheaded Southern Belle who buys you coins?

Yes, a beautiful brown eyed raven haired indian princess who buys you coins  

Maybe we should collect wives?

Quote: pnightingaleMaybe we should collect wives?

lolwut? :3

I would catalogue mine as extremely fine (XF), maybe with a couple of scuff marks.  Do they make those airtite casules 5 feet long?

Quote: neilithicI would catalogue mine as extremely fine (XF), maybe with a couple of scuff marks.  Do they make those airtite casules 5 feet long?

Use an MRI machine in place of a capsule  
BTW, what is catalogue value for your specimen?

Swapping extras is going to be interesting.

Quote: sccedaBTW, what is catalogue value for your specimen?

Well since there's only one known specimen an auction would have to determine the value

she was minted in 1978.

Quote: pnightingaleSwapping extras is going to be interesting.

I thought you live in Florida, not in Utah.    My lovely "specimen" would kick me out if I were ever engaged in such swapping.

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Quote: sccedaBTW, what is catalogue value for your specimen?

Well since there's only one known specimen an auction would have to determine the value

she was minted in 1978.

It is funny how we ran astray of our topic about zinc.    Our friend Phil should hate us for this, but it seems he enjoys going astray as well.  

Quote: sccedaIt is funny how we ran astray of our topic about zinc.

It wasn't a topic about zinc.  

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Quote: sccedaIt is funny how we ran astray of our topic about zinc.

It wasn't a topic about zinc.  

OK, about coal