NERO
Joined: 7 Sep 2017
Posts: 84
Posted: 19 Feb 2023, 19:08
#
Posted: 19 Feb 2023, 19:08
#
(translator) Hello to all sorry bad language - weight gr 4 - ø 23,00 mm
Mahmud II
obverse unknown
thank you
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posts: 15834
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 13:26
#
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 13:26
#
AH1233
+ Reign 21 year
=
AH1254
Try to do the rest yourself.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Mr. Midnight
Catalogue referee
Joined: 10 Mar 2017
Posts: 4329
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 14:31
#
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 14:31
#
It is definitely 1223.
Mint name looks like Misr - Egypt.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posts: 15834
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 14:34
#
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 14:34
#
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
rsirian1
Joined: 20 Nov 2020
Posts: 12951
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 15:47
#
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 15:47
#
I think he already knows the year. He needs identification of the coin.
harryg
Closed account
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 16:38
#
Edited: 20 Feb 2023, 16:40
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 16:38
#
Edited: 20 Feb 2023, 16:40
Yes , 1223 Egypt but like the OP, I could not explain or account for the obverse having no toughra or denomination but does have an unfamiliar design. Weight is right but diameter is off in the attached link which is very similar to this reverse with regnal year dating it 1836. Both sides of the OP's coin has the addition of what could be a wheat stalk. I could find nothing matching the OP's coin.
N#25360
Camerinvs
Joined: 19 May 2016
Posts: 6417
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 17:56
#
Edited: 20 Feb 2023, 18:09
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 17:56
#
Edited: 20 Feb 2023, 18:09
I'm starting to think it's a token.
But the mint is not Cairo (which is what مصر actually means on coins). Because they have not added the diacritics, the final letter could be any of ق or ن or even ي, but there is no mint in Krause that seems to correspond. The first letter could be م or ص or ض.
EDIT: Or else a clumsy rendering of جزائر i.e. Algiers??
₱o$₮ag€ $₮am₱$ a₹€ mo₹€ £€₲i₮ima₮€ a$ a ƒo₹m oƒ ¢u₹₹€nc¥ ₮ha₦ ₮h€ €₦₮i₹€ "¢oi₦" ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ oƒ ₦au₹u o₹ ₦iu€. ••• £€$ ₮im฿₹€$-₱o$₮€ $o₦₮ ₱£u$ £é₲i₮im€$ €₦ ₮a₦t qu'o฿j€₮$ mo₦é₮ai₹€$ qu€ £a ₱₹odu¢₮io₦ €₦₮iè₹€ d€ «mo₦₦ai€$» d€ ₦au₹u ou d€ ₦iu€.
andre48
Closed account
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 19:10
#
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 19:10
#
hello a token from iraq? this coin is similar?
N#115319
NERO
Joined: 7 Sep 2017
Posts: 84
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 19:21
#
Posted: 20 Feb 2023, 19:21
#
Thank you so much for all the information 🙂
Mr. Midnight
Catalogue referee
Joined: 10 Mar 2017
Posts: 4329
Posted: 21 Feb 2023, 00:53
#
Posted: 21 Feb 2023, 00:53
#
local currency? A brand mark, one of many?
Very interesting piece.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
Dr_Teek
Catalogue referee
Joined: 25 Nov 2022
Posts: 242
Posted: 8 Mar 2024, 20:44
#
Posted: 8 Mar 2024, 20:44
#
So I am pretty sure its not Egypt, 95% its طرابلس which is Libya, check this out in 20 Para - Mahmud II type D/E , however I'm still searching for the other side.
Referee for: Egypt
Geison
Translator
Joined: 11 Mar 2015
Posts: 2330
Posted: 8 Mar 2024, 23:09
#
Edited: 8 Mar 2024, 23:09
Posted: 8 Mar 2024, 23:09
#
Edited: 8 Mar 2024, 23:09
Libya your coin is the same as Zeno
I mean, the EXACT samehttps://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=308874
Actually the same picture
Dr_Teek
Catalogue referee
Joined: 25 Nov 2022
Posts: 242
Posted: 8 Mar 2024, 23:19
#
Posted: 8 Mar 2024, 23:19
#
Apparently during the years 1711 to 1835 Karamanli dynasty took over, , may be that's the reason why there is no tughra with the name of Mahmoud II
Referee for: Egypt
harryg
Closed account
Posted: 9 Mar 2024, 00:58
#
Posted: 9 Mar 2024, 00:58
#
OP's coin is 23mm. Zeno 28mm.
Geison
Translator
Joined: 11 Mar 2015
Posts: 2330
Posted: 9 Mar 2024, 01:00
#
Posted: 9 Mar 2024, 01:00
#
harryg
OP's coin is 23mm. Zeno 28mm.
Then some information is wrong.
It is the exact same picture.
Same shadow, same micro errors, same everything
Used time zone is UTC+2:00. Current time is 18:00.