Token - French feudal or German Counter Token?

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SStefanov Catalogue referee
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:12 #
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Hello Folks.

 

Merry Christmas! I wish you all prosperity, love and happiness. I came across an odd token. It looks like it's one of those counter tokens, but it could be something else. I submitted it on Numista, Patrick (PLH28) recommended first this to go through the forum for identification, because he hasn't seen this as well.

 

Weight: 2.4

Diameter: 26

It has 4 french lilies and a big cross on reverse with oval shaping around it.

 

Is there somebody who knows what this is ? Thanks in advance!

 

Kind regards,

Stef

Referee:  Albanian cities, Khanate of Crimea, Croatian cities, Bavaria-Ingolstadt, Bavaria-Landshut, Duchy of Bavaria, Electorate of Bavaria, Kingdom

Melius est esse unum numero in villa, quam numerus duo in metropoli.
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ZacUK Numista team
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:20 #
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 A few of them on here already. 

It is a French jeton, made in Nuremberg, Germany. 

Will find some links … 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:22 #
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 A few of them I remember having AVE MARIA lettering, 

which I see on your second picture. Links to follow … 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:24 #
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 One similar example … 

N#30979 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:33 #
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aah, this makes sense. Thank you a lot !

Referee:  Albanian cities, Khanate of Crimea, Croatian cities, Bavaria-Ingolstadt, Bavaria-Landshut, Duchy of Bavaria, Electorate of Bavaria, Kingdom

Melius est esse unum numero in villa, quam numerus duo in metropoli.
9:25 STEFANUS
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:33 #
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 Just that one on here, others have one side similar. 

A nice link with pictures and details > 

https://finds.org.uk/counties/findsrecordingguides/jettons/ 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:50 #
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 Lettering on reverse: AVE MARIA GRACIA 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
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Posted: 30 Dec 2022, 21:58 #
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you have helped me a lot, well, this is a nice find. I will cherish it.

Referee:  Albanian cities, Khanate of Crimea, Croatian cities, Bavaria-Ingolstadt, Bavaria-Landshut, Duchy of Bavaria, Electorate of Bavaria, Kingdom

Melius est esse unum numero in villa, quam numerus duo in metropoli.
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