New Issuer: Andaman Islands

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This message aims at: requesting the creation or the modification of an issuer in the catalogue

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Berkshire Collecting Catalogue referee
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Posted: 20 Nov 2022, 22:09 #
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We should add Andaman Islands as an issuer in the coin catalogue for this coin:

 

https://coins.ha.com/itm/andaman-islands-penal-colony-victoria-rupee-token-1861-xf45-brown-ngc-/a/61284-99014.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

rsirian1
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Posted: 20 Nov 2022, 22:52 #
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N#74512

Berkshire Collecting Catalogue referee
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Posted: 20 Nov 2022, 23:59 #
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Then should we make Andaman Islands a sub-issuer?

Sjoelund
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Posted: 21 Nov 2022, 13:43 #
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It's a token, not a coin.

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Posted: 21 Nov 2022, 18:05 #
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rsirian1

N#74512

 

This is listed in Krause - therefore, it should be under ‘Coins’.

 

Aidan.

ceh2019
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Posted: 21 Nov 2022, 18:39 #
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Sjoelund

It's a token, not a coin.

The two terms are not mutually exclusive. By one definition of token, all modern coins are also tokens, since they don't contain their face value in metal.

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Posted: 22 Nov 2022, 13:11 #
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Also you could consider it similar to the tokens issued by early Canada.

Jarcek Numista team
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Posted: 24 Nov 2022, 08:51 #
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If it is just a prison token, then no, it should not be listed within coin catalogue.

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Posted: 24 Nov 2022, 09:09 #
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Jarcek

If it is just a prison token, then no, it should not be listed within coin catalogue.

 

This was officially released for circulation - as the Andaman Islands were themselves a prison colony.

 

Aidan.

ceh2019
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Posted: 24 Nov 2022, 10:38 #
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Jarcek

If it is just a prison token, then no, it should not be listed within coin catalogue.

No, they weren't “prison tokens”, they circulated on the islands which happened to house a penal colony.

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ceh2019
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Posted: 24 Nov 2022, 10:41 #
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It turns out we already have an issuer “Andaman and Nicobar” for some fantasy issues, so I've requested this piece be moved to the coin section under that issuer. We also need to add the 1866 type. Does anyone have an image?

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Status changed to Opened (Jarcek, 24 Nov 2022, 11:33)
Status changed to Rejected (Compendium, 3 Aug 2023, 00:43)
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