Islamic coin and Indian token - authenticity

Hi All,

I'm not sure if it's right section, as the question is not about identification but authenticity. I've recently acquired a coin and a token below:

1.  Tabaristan, Ziyarid dynasty, Zahir al-Dawla Wushmagir. 323-357 AH, AR Dirham. Amul mint, 346AH. 4.9g, 30mm. Obverse and reverse misaligned about 30 degrees. Couldn't find it in Numista catalogue.

2. Ram Darbar token, N#169605 Misaligned a bit too, about 10 degrees. Some details are different than on Numista, but in the internet I've found more pictures where the details don't match either. 

Do you think they're both genuine? Is it even possible to tell just from the scans? 

I would appreciate any advice about how to detect fakes in that kind of coins. Like a red flags, common forgery tricks etc. 

Many thanks for looking!

As for the temple token, these have very little value, were not issued by any government, and have been made by many different people, so the entire concept of “authentic” or “counterfeit” doesn't really apply in the normal sense. 

As general guidelines, a counterfeit coin can often be detected because of its incorrect weight, diameter, or details. Also, examining the rim of a coin for a casting line and sprue can help detect cast forgeries. A supposedly old coin shouldn't look new, though patinas can be faked. Buying from reputable dealers provides some level of protection. 

Here are a couple of articles on counterfeit detection:

https://www.thesprucecrafts.com/how-to-detect-counterfeit-coins-4163525

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Counterfeit%20Coin%20Detection

Thank you for the links, very interesting reading!

Regarding Ram Darbar token - apparently there are some "forgeries", according to the article I've found:

https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?coin=521

However, I'm still not too experienced coin collector, so that's why I asked about some other opinions. 

And I can't find even one picture of the islamic coin to compare it, so I need someone with expertiese in this field. 

In case it helps, here are the dirhams of Zahir al-Dawla Wushmagir from the Zeno database. They are similar to yours but I didn't see any with the star that would match yours. Maybe one of our members skilled in reading Arabic coins will be able to help. 

Incidentally, I don't think any of the Ram Darbar tokens are “ancient,” nor should they be called coins. To my knowledge temple tokens are mostly 20th century, certainly no older than late 19th century.  Although people sometimes ask high prices for these, to my knowledge they have been widely available in India for maybe $1 each, except for the rare ones in real silver, which would be worth about bullion value. 

Thank you! The way the other coins on that website look makes me think mine is genuine as well.

And I will treat the token as ‘genuine’ as well, as I don't think it would be worth to counterfeit such an object, as you say maybe with silver.