New Token Request question

So, I thought I would post this here for all interested in it to debate the merits of a new token request I received. Regardless of what the general outcome of this debate is, the power that be may have a different opinion. I just thought we (those mostly interested in this) could have a chance at it first.

My opinion on this token is it would be a nightmare to add every one person that is ever found on it. I think it is a personal key fob because of a notch on part of it within the inner circle. It has an individuals name on it which is where the nightmare part of adding it to Numista comes in. Can you imagine 100,000 individual names of the same token design on here? I do believe that the center part of the token has a value on Numista. I have 6 that I have picked up over the years but never really have done anything with them. They sat in a box with other stuff that I have no clue what to do with at the moment. All 6 are similar in design with a different persons name on each one, and on the center it has a different design.  4 of the 6 are completely different and the other 2 are almost identical (large and small horseshoe). 

Looking forward to your input

Jerry

The writing on the 6 I have are:

Personal individual names on Obverse of each one.

Horseshoe (Large and Small varieties) - Obverse

Good Luck (4 Leaf Clover) - Reverse

Teletag - Obverse

Museum Science  Industry - Reverse

Flag - Obverse

Good Luck (4 Leaf Clover) - Reverse

Lucky (Shooting Star) - Obverse

Pat. No. 1455289 HARVARD AUT MARCH, Co. Jamestown NY - Reverse

Springlake Park - Obverse

Good Luck (Horseshoe)

I'm the one who send the request for this token. I didn't know so many varieties exist. Since I already saw some similar ones on Numista, I thought the request wouldn't be an issue.

Token - Donald Munro Gibsons BC - Canada – Numista

Token - OHN Belton Montreal CSP - Canada – Numista 

Good Luck Token - Dunbar, West Virginia - United States – Numista

It isn't an issue, love a good debate. Just voicing my opinion and looking for others to voice theirs about how best to approach this token.

Jerry

We used to have a machine that would make these at an arcade near where I grew up. You would put a quarter in and then move the dial around to the numbers and letters. When you made your selection then you pulled a big lever and got to hear a satisfying stamping sound before making the next selection.

Given that kids make all sorts of things with them, name tags, love tokens, swear word tokens, I doubt you will ever find two alike.

Not sure what to do with them, I don‘t collect or keep them. But if it is something other people do I would think the base entry should be the blank metal before it was stamped, then maybe an entry in the comments explaining that they are all essential unique because of the customization process for the text.

I /sort of/ agree with jadejackel.  If they are in the catalog, it should be for the base token shape with the cutouts (ie: the star shape).
The problem is, what do you but for the search terms?  Without any text description on the token page, it would be next to impossible to find.  Maybe an image search?  But definitely not with just searching.

I agree for the base/blank token shape, but how to describe it? “Blank Customized Good Luck Token”? Mine I brought was described by the seller as a “trade advertising token”.  

UPDATE: Solved for me. Got accepted as a Canadian token since it could come from Canada too. 

I had forgotten about these. Went on vacation and they got buried under other stuff. 

Here are mine that have just been added.

N#347725

N#347727

N#347728

N#347730

N#347731

Any opinions?

Jerry

Harvard Metal Typer Medal - (Design, Horseshoe, Clover, Etc)

A few machine types exist, maximum 32 characters on a blank…

(Various central designs and colours) almost unlimited varieties.

Makes no sense to list them by the text stamped onto the blank.

I like the ornate 1920's version of the machine; these things are beautiful.

I did not use the text stamped into them. I used the common centers as the focal point of the listing. Ignored all the other stamped text.

Jerry

JLHare

I did not use the text stamped into them. I used the common centers as the focal point of the listing. Ignored all the other stamped text.

Probably for the best, the ones that contain someone's name or personal details, are most likely unique.

Where companies have used the machine to produce advertising tokens, are perhaps the only exception to make, as they are more likely to exist in quantity.

JLHare

I did not use the text stamped into them. I used the common centers as the focal point of the listing. Ignored all the other stamped text.

 

Jerry

I agree with focusing on the centers & possibly the shapes. Mine is a six pointed star (as opposed to the five point) with a 1904 St. Louis Expo center. In this case, a famous ANA (Canadian) Member - Ludger Gravel - appears to have been the author of the outer text.