For me, the temperatures are definitely unusual. Last week it was really hot for 2-3 days, and I barely went outside when I didn’t have to. Almost all the plants in my area are dead too, also new to me in summer. I really hope this doesn’t become normal here, otherwise it could get really grim for our local wildlfe.
There is a little difference if you live in a litteral desert or usually in a oceanic temperate climate region.
Personally I despise that we seldom have long periods of frost anymore and insects bearing all the tropical deseases can survive and travel a bit further north every year.
Saw a video on YouTube weeks ago about this heatwave, and looks like everyone in England are as red as tomatoes! 🍅
For me it’s decent although I did sweat occasionally but I found it fine. Heck I even drank hot drinks and wore jumpers on some days because I felt fine.
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You guys are getting soft .. Come to Brisbane in January/February and you will find out what hot is .. 😉
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Laughing in 50+ Celsius back in July in Dubai. 😅
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Actually, it's not so much the temperature as the relative humidity, which makes you suffer…. I stayed 9 years in Mexico City and in the rainy season it was very hard because of the impossibility to evacuate your surplus body temperature. When it's dry, then you get cold by evaporating your sweat, in humidity it simply doesn't work!
Actually, it's not so much the temperature as the relative humidity, which makes you suffer….
Heh, the worst humidity I ever experienced was in upstate NewYork some years back, in Ithaca! I headed out on foot one morning, and before I even got off campus the humidity had me soaking, I had to go back, take a shower and go out in the car instead!
In Mazuria we are just above the line of the heat wave proper - probably it is being held back a bit by the Carpathians. Still, last week it was over 30 C most days, and often in the mid to high 30s in the shade! Humidity is generally low, so it is not too bad. Some days are a bit of a drag though. Thunder storms in the evening.
It is unusually hot all round, 5-10 Celcius above normal for the places I am familiar with.
You don't even know anything about Humidity until you have been to Brisbane in the months I mentioned above. It is not just hot it is like being in a sauna. It is a sweatbox. We have airconditioning everywhere we go, house, car, shops. My house has 7 separate Aircon units.
At least we are prepared and armed for it. What you guys have been getting over in Europe is very unusual and not normal which is why you are finding it difficult to cope.
The weird thing is while you have been putting up with record temperatures we have had a colder than normal winter. Just a few days ago the minimum temp here was very close to 0c and the maximum was only 17c. That is way too cold for us. Only 2 more days of winter though and Spring will be upon us on 1st of September. 😃
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I agree Brismike. The European heat is a more dry heat, we get humidity heat here and that feels much more uncomfortable. Auckland usually considers 26 - 29c a really hot day, but with 98% humidity the humidex feels like temperature goes up to about 38c with 50c+ in the open sunshine. Plus it stays in the 20s at night, think sleeping naked on the bed with no sheets from Dec to March here.
Also Brisbane and Auckland, the sun climbs much higher in the sky than Europe. Now most places in the UK and Northern Europe the sun is barely 50 degrees above the horizon, yet here its over 85 in Brisbane and 75 in Auckland - that is nearly overhead and you will burn in 12 minutes.
Even now its late winter here and the sun is higher here than in Stockholm and Edinburgh already. Like you guys in Brissy we have had weird weather, cold clear day on August 12th with high of 12 and low of 3 and then a humid rainstorm from Aug 15 - 21 and we got 21.0 and 21.6 with lows of 16.1 in August, unprecedented here - usually its 15 and 8 and then only 16 and 9 in September.
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Good day colleagues.
I'm in the middle, in the middle of Europe, and I think most people around here are aware that she will still remember the summer temperatures out of nostalgia -when it's January and February.
today the price for 1 MW/hour rose on the stock exchange electricity for 1K euro.
When I advised here a month ago - wrap your heat in bags and open in January, you didn't believe. In the summer here we have +35 and in the winter -20 in celsius.
In the UN missions - fully dressed in camouflage with a bulletproof vest and a helmet when dealing with explosives, I felt in my briefs how it flows and the dust and sand stick the most from the back between the legs - and you get used to it and want to survive.
When I lived in apartments and the 6th floor - windows facing south, my wife and I used to put wet towels on each other in the evening- you get used to it if you want to survive.
( Now I have such arrangements with a house from the 19th century that the temperature is 25 all year round and the humidity is 70% without energy, only using the fireplace in winter and I don't buy the wood)
I can't keep him warm with that paper bag -he doesn't want to keep it warm.
I just know that many people in Europe will cry if nothing happens for the better by autumn.
Yes - London 15 degrees and raining all day - hardly a heat wave, in fact below average. London's average September high is 19 and low 11.
I do really feel for you Europeans for the winter though, the Russian gas situation will make it a winter of discontent and I know most parts of Europe sans most of Spain, Southern Italy, Greece, Malta and Turkey, will be very cold. I am worried too about the impact of Global warming, we had 1 in 100 year storms 8 times this winter and a real mix of record cold and heat (-8 in the South Island, 23 degrees a week later). Here in Auckland we have had 600mm in June - August when we should get 360mm. Nelson in the south Island which gets 800mm a year and about 70mm in August had a storm from Aug 18 - 21 which dumped 550mm and basically ruined the whole city.
But apart from Covid and Flu, we were quite lucky, our government gives most of us a winter energy payment. So this year my winter power bill was $140 a month on average (- 30 due to $40 a week winter energy payment).
I hope it pans out for all of you, Ukraine is apparently turning the tide and the war could end before winter. I know now in September, there may be 3 or 4 weeks of good conditions left, then the Mud and the snow by mid November.
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A couple of years ago I had to be in Qatar for work and my trip fell just in the summer months of July and August. I must admit that it was during this trip that I realized that I know nothing about the heat. It is impossible to live in Qatar without air conditioning in summer, and it is not even safe to go outside during the day. As my colleagues warned me, being out in the open sun for a while without sunglasses can cause retinal burns. Throughout the country, the air heats over +42°C during the day, and after sunset, the temperature drops to +32°C. Water in the Persian Gulf remains warm, reaching about +30 ° C. It never rained once in the two months I was there. Any European heat after returning from Qatar seems like very comfortable weather to live in. They say the most comfortable time of year in this country in December and January. It is during this time that the temperature drops to + 24 ° C. This year I had the opportunity to check it myself, but unfortunately, the Italian team did not make it to the World Cup.
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A bit strange in Mazuria [north central Poland] this summer - 28C one day, down to around 20C (today), then it could be up to 30C at the weekend.
Overall, it is cooler than last year by a substantial margin - I was going to invest in an aircon unit, after last year's sunny experience but I spent the money on old banknotes instead!
Where I live it's not even necessary to follow the media to find out what is going with the weather situation in Europe.
Besides the usual tourists from neighbouring countries (Denmark, Norway, Finland) there are a lot of German cars, campers and RV's on the roads this year. There are also many from The Netherlands, but self-driving tourists from Belgium, France, Switzerland and Austria are on the increase. No wonder - Sweden has relatively good weather in the summer, rarely over 30 degrees Celsius in the shade during the day (perhaps 3-4 days a year) - and, the Swedish currency is on a nose dive compared to the euro and dollar.
We have 70% humidity indoors during summer without any gadgets turned on.
June 2023: the second hottest and stormiest month of June in France since records began.
Throughout June, France was most often under the influence of a vast anticyclone covering the northern part of Europe, with a continental easterly flow that brought warm and dry air. and a warm air flow from North Africa that created severe thunderstorms as it encountered wet ocean flows. In France and Spain. El Niňo, which is regaining strength, does not seem to be in question because it is too far away, but its influence could add to global warming in the coming months.
Spring was wet and cold this year in Germany but indeed June was superb.
highest temperature in the shadow I measured at 36,7 degrees in southern Germany, that was last weekend.
last week I found a big ass spider in my celler and apparently its a spider that is supposed to exist only in northern Africa but had been seen since a few years in Italy.
Saturday 35,5 degrees expected.
Im one of those raee ones in Europe to have airconditioning but I do live in a Roof floor appartment and it gets super hot there.
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Another hot summer there! Apparently going to be 50 degrees in Sicily and Malta and its over 40 in Southern Spain every day. Even Orkney got to 25 degrees!
We don't envy you, but we do seem to get the inverse. Summer last year was the worst ever, it rained nearly every day and we had a 1 in 200 year downpour on January 27th where it got 259mm (10.4 inches) of rain in one day and we had downpours and 3 cyclones. Apart from a drier March and early April, it has been almost non stop rain since. Even fine days will have 2 or 3 disruptive showers that ruin washing and turn everything into a mossi wonderland.
It was also a cold summer, one day above 27 and average highs barely hitting 20. Usually it gets to 20 everyday between Dec 10 and April 10. This year we had days with highs of 18 or 19 in every month including January and February. Their average highs were 23c compared to 26.5 last year. Winter has been surprisingly mild, they keep saying El Nino will calm things down, but its river after atmospheric river, flood after flood and forecasters going (Well there's an 80% chance of El Nino, but this is residual La Nina and the ocean is still hot, so its causing rivers etc). Even forecasted fine patches are downgraded to “Chance of a shower”, then “Islolated showers” then “Chance of thunder” and then “Heavy thunder storm alert with torrential rain” and we watch huge Australian highs evaportae into slim ridges shoved between two developing subtropical and then subarctic lowers.
We also get the “spinnaker” lows which don't pass over us, but start spinning around and around on us, deepening and spitting out lows.
I am over it. We have had 1250mm of rain this year so far, we usually have 1100mm for the whole year. We have had rainfall 25 days in a row and June had 2 rainless days in total (I don't say fine as both were leaden skies - so Liverpool fine as we call it).
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El Niño is settling down. It has been associated with historically significant droughts in New Zealand, such as in 1972-73, 1982-83, 1997-98, and 2009-10, but it doesn’t always bring one. You might get unusually dry weather later in 2023 or in 2024.
Currently in the middle of another hosepipe ban here in this part of Kent at the moment and the garden is beginning to suffer, but the temperature in the UK is nothing like that of Southern Europe. I understand the comments from people who live in countries that regularly have hotter temperatures, but it's similar to the problems we get when it snows here in the South of the UK. Some people can't understand why we have so many difficulties with that. It's simple - we're just not used to it, the infrastructure isn't set up for it, and people don't have the tools or equipment at home to deal with the problems unusual weather causes.
However, with the inevitable impact that El Ninyo is likely to cause in the coming years, it might be time to start thinking differently everywhere. Maybe it's time to get those snow ploughs ready in the outback of Australia or the deserts of Dubai.
Look after yourselves, take every chance to cool down, and drink lots of clean water. Stay safe !!!
for Me (east of England) it was moderately warm mid to late June time but for the last week now it’s been on and off raining, thundering and strong winds.
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Hello. That I flew across the center of Europe to the south,,Black Sea-Bulgaria,,
Temperature today:
In the Czech Republic it is a few degrees higher, but here it is a completely different climate and that of the sea.
It has a huge healing effect on me, the humid sea breeze helps me.
If I were younger, I would immediately move to the sea, now I would be afraid because of health care - after all, I feel that it is at a good level here.
after the arrival of the house, temperature hell awaits us earlier this summer.My house from the 19th century after reconstruction has stone sandstone foundations and even without air conditioning, I still have 24 degrees Celsius at home all year round, even with the window fan open, and I am in small mountains and in the green. ,,I need to bring home to my garden 30 meters of beach and sea,,
And here we are in the middle of winter. Our daily conversations are about inflation and cost of living, price hikes for gas and electricity, shorting of housing for renting and mortgage interest rates keep rising, which lead to the current Bank Governor not getting re appointed when his term ends in September 2023. Are we freezing here, no.
The current heatwave in Arizona (Phoenix) was mentioned on our 6pm news yesterday, but then that is desert living over there.
In this country and some other Asian countries, when the weather is too hot, people would just go to those giant shopping centers for window shopping and also to cool off, if the beach is too crowded. I am not sure if you can do that in England or in Europe.
Guys, enjoy your warm weather as won't be long, it will freezing for you again.
I saw your part about winter and the Reserve bank governor, cost of living etc and thought you were a Kiwi. But alas you are Australian. Still I see you guys are having the same problems as us.
Our Reserve bank governor - Adrian Orr, was re elected for another term too, despite his huge unpopularity after increasing the cash rate about 20 times in the past two years.
The weather here has settled, although another atmospheric river from the Solomon Islands along with the usual southerly front has been forecasted to deliver “extremely heavy rain” on Thursday. Overall July has been better, just drizzle most days and mild temperatures stuck in the mid teens here in Auckland.
I saw on the news that Death Valley got to 54c again. But you know its death valley for a reason, its not called “Temperate easily going 23c in summer valley”. I do wish these Americans could use imperial measurements like the rest of us and stop being so different all the time.
And I notice its usually Italy, Spain and Greece getting the headlines, I found these places unbearably hot in May, so you know July will be killer.
No one is mentioning heat waves in Lerwick, Oslo, Tromso or Liverpool are they. Somehow the news that lerwick got 19c does not really excite people.
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And I notice its usually Italy, Spain and Greece getting the headlines, I found these places unbearably hot in May, so you know July will be killer.
No one is mentioning heat waves in Lerwick, Oslo, Tromso or Liverpool are they. Somehow the news that lerwick got 19c does not really excite people.
In Europe most people have their vacations in July - even the politicians. No political monkey business to report for the media, makes time for more about the weather. We prefer Crete (Greece) in late March, way before the season begins, very much like our own summer.
And here we are in the middle of winter. Our daily conversations are about inflation and cost of living, price hikes for gas and electricity, shorting of housing for renting and mortgage interest rates keep rising, which lead to the current Bank Governor not getting re appointed when his term ends in September 2023. Are we freezing here, no.
The current heatwave in Arizona (Phoenix) was mentioned on our 6pm news yesterday, but then that is desert living over there.
In this country and some other Asian countries, when the weather is too hot, people would just go to those giant shopping centers for window shopping and also to cool off, if the beach is too crowded. I am not sure if you can do that in England or in Europe.
Guys, enjoy your warm weather as won't be long, it will freezing for you again.
Inflation and cost of living will be back on the agenda after the vacation season - as sure as amen in church.
Giant shopping centers are typically for city dwellers and we've got those as well. Here we've got around 300 meters to the lake.
Otherwise a patio on the northside of the house and a screened porch on the southside.
When temperature is 30+ C the basement is the best place to sleep.
It is all overcast and slightly rainy here (Iława Poland) now - 17C on the outside thermometer - and set to continue for a few days. We had to wear our jackets outside yesterday evening!!
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Last week, in the middle of summer, my heating turned on by itself and heated the floor in the house because the temperatures outside dropped to 15 degrees in central Europe.
Tropical temperatures have returned this week and the thermometer outside is reading over 30 degrees Celsius.
My home's natural temperature is +- 0.5 degrees all year round, so it's always around 24 degrees and that's with the windows open (without air conditioning - this condition makes the stone foundation of a sandstone house from the 19th century)
This is the status as of 4pm now:
outdoors
home
,, And finally, please - I want to express my support to the residents of either Slovenia or Hawaii and all those affected by fires, floods and other weather-related disasters,,
Nice greetings to colleagues in the whole universe.
Czechia ( This is now the approved state designation in the colloquial shortened version)
Last week, in the middle of summer, my heating turned on by itself and heated the floor in the house because the temperatures outside dropped to 15 degrees in central Europe.
Tropical temperatures have returned this week and the thermometer outside is reading over 30 degrees Celsius.
My home's natural temperature is +- 0.5 degrees all year round, so it's always around 24 degrees and that's with the windows open (without air conditioning - this condition makes the stone foundation of a sandstone house from the 19th century)
This is the status as of 4pm now:
outdoors
home
,, And finally, please - I want to express my support to the residents of either Slovenia or Hawaii and all those affected by fires, floods and other weather-related disasters,,
Ahoj Ivan
Most of the fires do not have any relation to the weather, but are started by humans, on purpose or not.
Most of the fires do not have any relation to the weather, but are started by humans, on purpose or not.
Tell that to canadians …
But you're right the global warming is related to humans, not on purpose, but without any voluntarist political reaction until now. As long as there is still oil, who cares more or less, I even know some who are happy about it: it saves them heating costs. There's no worse blind man who doesn't want to see.
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Czechia ( This is now the approved state designation in the colloquial shortened version)
Last week, in the middle of summer, my heating turned on by itself and heated the floor in the house because the temperatures outside dropped to 15 degrees in central Europe.
Tropical temperatures have returned this week and the thermometer outside is reading over 30 degrees Celsius.
My home's natural temperature is +- 0.5 degrees all year round, so it's always around 24 degrees and that's with the windows open (without air conditioning - this condition makes the stone foundation of a sandstone house from the 19th century)
This is the status as of 4pm now:
outdoors
home
,, And finally, please - I want to express my support to the residents of either Slovenia or Hawaii and all those affected by fires, floods and other weather-related disasters,,
Ahoj Ivan
Most of the fires do not have any relation to the weather, but are started by humans, on purpose or not.
I wish you health and happiness.
Nature is really responsible for the fire in Hawaii. Now the report of the investigators was that the fire started from a fallen power line in the dry grass.
Weather:
* strong winds knocked power lines to the ground
*High temperatures and little or no rain make the landscape very dry and the fire spreads quickly
*the strong wind spread the fire very quickly and spread it across the island
( Yes, a person also has an influence, especially when we see how the Americans conduct electricity with wires in our country, and at the beginning of the 20th century, wires between wooden posts and in cities.)
I was particularly struck by the fact that they did not have any system of warning and alerting residents and that is already for consideration!!!
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Czechia ( This is now the approved state designation in the colloquial shortened version)
Last week, in the middle of summer, my heating turned on by itself and heated the floor in the house because the temperatures outside dropped to 15 degrees in central Europe.
Tropical temperatures have returned this week and the thermometer outside is reading over 30 degrees Celsius.
My home's natural temperature is +- 0.5 degrees all year round, so it's always around 24 degrees and that's with the windows open (without air conditioning - this condition makes the stone foundation of a sandstone house from the 19th century)
This is the status as of 4pm now:
outdoors
home
,, And finally, please - I want to express my support to the residents of either Slovenia or Hawaii and all those affected by fires, floods and other weather-related disasters,,
Ahoj Ivan
Most of the fires do not have any relation to the weather, but are started by humans, on purpose or not.
I wish you health and happiness.
Nature is really responsible for the fire in Hawaii. Now the report of the investigators was that the fire started from a fallen power line in the dry grass.
Weather:
* strong winds knocked power lines to the ground
*High temperatures and little or no rain make the landscape very dry and the fire spreads quickly
*the strong wind spread the fire very quickly and spread it across the island
( Yes, a person also has an influence, especially when we see how the Americans conduct electricity with wires in our country, and at the beginning of the 20th century, wires between wooden posts and in cities.)
I was particularly struck by the fact that they did not have any system of warning and alerting residents and that is already for consideration!!!
Everybody is free to believe whatever he/she wants to believe. But it is maybe a good idea to study a certain subject before running into conclusions.
You can believe what you want, many Americans believe that God created not only the universe but also every living species, contrary to the very broad scientific consensus that supports the idea of an evolutionary process by which new species form from common ancestors.
But spreading this nonsense widely and trying to influence the popular masses in lack of education is another matter.
At last, some media are starting to fight the nonsense of climatosceptics: - Google and YouTube deprive climatosceptic content of advertising revenue. This new rule will affect those who deny climate change or that human activity is contributing to it. Advertisements that "contradict the well-established scientific consensus around the existence and causes of climate change" will no longer be served by Google, number 1 in online advertising. And videos that promote such ideas will no longer be allowed to display advertising, depriving their creators of significant revenue. The rule applies to messages that define climate change as a fabrication or a hoax, those that deny that the climate is getting warmer in the long term or that greenhouse gas emissions and human activity contribute to this reality. - In France, after years of a lax attitude which gave a free voice to the most radical climatosceptic lobbies, the main radio information group (Radio France) cut off their antenna. We even remember a minister of education who uttered these insanities in the year 2000.
Everybody is free to believe whatever he/she wants to believe. But it is maybe a good idea to study a certain subject before running into conclusions.
You can believe what you want, many Americans believe that God created not only the universe but also every living species, contrary to the very broad scientific consensus that supports the idea of an evolutionary process by which new species form from common ancestors.
But spreading this nonsense widely and trying to influence the popular masses in lack of education is another matter.
At last, some media are starting to fight the nonsense of climatosceptics: - Google and YouTube deprive climatosceptic content of advertising revenue. This new rule will affect those who deny climate change or that human activity is contributing to it. Advertisements that "contradict the well-established scientific consensus around the existence and causes of climate change" will no longer be served by Google, number 1 in online advertising. And videos that promote such ideas will no longer be allowed to display advertising, depriving their creators of significant revenue. The rule applies to messages that define climate change as a fabrication or a hoax, those that deny that the climate is getting warmer in the long term or that greenhouse gas emissions and human activity contribute to this reality. - In France, after years of a lax attitude which gave a free voice to the most radical climatosceptic lobbies, the main radio information group (Radio France) cut off their antenna. We even remember a minister of education who uttered these insanities in the year 2000.
It is not clever to confuse science with political-correct-ideas. The fact that Google takes the right to censor climate-sceptism proves only that there is (some) truth in this climate-critics…Was there ever in history done any censor to lies??? no, censorship is ALWAYS against truth only. An inconvinience truth maybe..:) Sorry this is a coin-platform. So I do not want to go to deep in this very intresting issue, my english is to poor to participate in a serious climate-debate here.
yvonEverybody is free to believe whatever he/she wants to believe. But it is maybe a good idea to study a certain subject before running into conclusions.
Have a nice day.
I absolutely do not understand you, I don't even want to argue or agree-disagree. I don't even want to study anything and calculate and do experiments.
However, I have to agree with the opinion of the federal fire investigator in Hawaii, where it was published that the camera recorded the fall of the electrical wire to the ground.
,, The wires fell when the wind was strong,, - wind is a natural element -that is, the intervention of nature
,,After hitting the ground, the wires throw sparks and an electric discharge occurs,,- it is a physical force - process
,, Due to the high temperatures, the landscape is dry and the grass is very dry, which is a prerequisite for starting a fire from a spark from a wire,,
-wet grass does not want to burn, nor does wet green living vegetation spread fire.
-- drought is caused by the weather - high temperatures-natural element
,, Strong winds quickly spread the fire across most of the island,, -wind is an influence, it is an element.
So when this is published by an investigator, a fire specialist, on a fire- So what should I believe in the heart of Europe???
How am I supposed to believe in some "chakras", voodoo spells or some fairy tales about an evil witch?
Or should I be satisfied with the statement that people in Hawaii and Slovenia prayed little and don't go to church, so they have a reward for that?
I'm a normal person and I understand how things happen naturally and I'm old enough to read fairy tales to my grandchildren and not to live in fairy tales.
and this has nothing to do with the contrary claim of scientists about global warming and so on.
Simply and clearly, the weather had an influence on these last two disasters, which hurt many people and complicated their lives.
And I know what I'm talking about, as a former professional, I had experience in building bridges during school-even then in practice I built several bridges- well, 30 engineers from us are going to Slovenia to build such bridges, they are retractable bridges using vault structures that are screwed together.
The fact that Google takes the right to censor climate-sceptism proves only that there is (some) truth in this climate-critics…Was there ever in history done any censor to lies??? no, censorship is ALWAYS against truth only.
I can't let you say that: it just amounts to saying that all opinions are equal, that if we prohibit the opology of Nazism it means that there is something true and good behind it. Moral relativism, fought by Spinoza or Nietzsche, makes no difference between what favors human life and what is a nuisance. And the doctrine of Trump-style climate skepticism is a nuisance to life in the sense that it encourages 'let it be' in the name of immediate profits rather than determined and necessarily coercive action to lessen the devastating effects of uncontrolled global warming which would seriously harm us (because the effects are beginning to be felt now) and our children (who will have many reasons to vilify our present culpable inaction).
The fact that Google takes the right to censor climate-sceptism proves only that there is (some) truth in this climate-critics…Was there ever in history done any censor to lies??? no, censorship is ALWAYS against truth only.
I can't let you say that: it just amounts to saying that all opinions are equal, that if we prohibit the opology of Nazism it means that there is something true and good behind it. Moral relativism, fought by Spinoza or Nietzsche, makes no difference between what favors human life and what is a nuisance. And the doctrine of Trump-style climate skepticism is a nuisance to life in the sense that it encourages 'let it be' in the name of immediate profits rather than determined and necessarily coercive action to lessen the devastating effects of uncontrolled global warming which would seriously harm us (because the effects are beginning to be felt now) and our children (who will have many reasons to vilify our present culpable inaction).
It is really important what yvon said. An environment has been created where increasingly certain opinions are not allowed to be expressed, whereas others are pushed as being the only right way to think. That is very damaging to freedom, democracy and real science. Some scientists think we're heading for global warming, while others think we're heading for an ice age. Probably both are right due to natural fluctuations on short and long terms. CO2 might be a green house gas, but it is also food for plants. Always look at the entire picture as much as possible and aim for the optimal global balance. To just ‘let it be’ and to change without thinking it through properly is about equally wrong.
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... Some scientists think we're heading for global warming, while others think we're heading for an ice age …
Just a snippet of what you say but the rest is on point. You're talking nonsense. It's just misinformation and political manipulation. Show us your scientific sources please. There is no serious information showing that the current global warming is accelerating the arrival of a new ice age, the exact opposite is happening.
... Some scientists think we're heading for global warming, while others think we're heading for an ice age …
Just a snippet of what you say but the rest is on point. You're talking nonsense. It's just misinformation and political manipulation. Show us your scientific sources please. There is no serious information showing that the current global warming is accelerating the arrival of a new ice age, the exact opposite is happening.
If your only source of information is the official government-propaganda, than you are absolutely right.
lol, I'm just waiting for you to cite your sources so we can laugh a little 🤪
If you want to be blind or deaf go ahead. I do not have any more information than the one you can also have. But it is of course much easier to parrot the ‘political-correct-government-propaganda’ than to dig a little bit deeper, what maybe shows you an 'inconvinient truth'…This is my last comment on this issue here. I am here for coins only, and in that way I appreciate your additions. For bullshit and nonsens I can watch TV if I need some.
... Some scientists think we're heading for global warming, while others think we're heading for an ice age …
Just a snippet of what you say but the rest is on point. You're talking nonsense. It's just misinformation and political manipulation. Show us your scientific sources please. There is no serious information showing that the current global warming is accelerating the arrival of a new ice age, the exact opposite is happening.
If your only source of information is the official government-propaganda, than you are absolutely right.
An amazing amount of government propaganda going around indeed, people in power these days really seem to enjoy telling others what they should believe. That I can state from simple personal observation, it happened in an excessive manner in the period 2020-2022 on a different subject. A few sources here that are interesting: According to NASA ice on the Arctic see is seeing record lows, yet there are record highs of ice on and around Antarctica. This simply shows that the matter is far more complex than what the media are telling people:
The Royal Society sais the levels of CO2 have risen quickly in recent history, from around 170 to 300 ppm in the past 800000 years to the current level of around 400 ppm. Yet, apparently 50 million years ago levels were around 1000 ppm:
According to Wikipedia the next ice age would normally arrive about 50000 years from now (which is like tomorrow in geological terms), but due to green house gasses it is estimated the next ice age will be delayed 100000 to 500000 years. Anyway, there will most likely be ice ages in the future, sooner or later:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age Personally I'm not taking such estimations very serious though, there is no scientific proof for knowing what is actually causing ice ages to naturally occur. Right now predictions are going around that around 2030 the Arctic sea will be ice free (you can google that yourself). There have been estimates before that as early as 2012 or 2015 the Arctic sea would be ice free. That didn't happen, scientists are not very good at making such predictions correctly, in my experience climate scientists behave like Jehova Witnesses in order to get their articles published, which on the long run does not work very well for maintaining peoples confidence in such science. The claim ‘97% of polar scientists say’ in the title is just meaningless propaganda, many cases have occured in the past of the majority of scientists betting on the wrong horse (like Earth being flat, bacteria not to exist, asbestos and cigarettes being safe):
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I see that you have made the effort to document yourself unlike others who just say that global warming is bull**** and propaganda. Moreover, your reference is most serious. NASA makes a notable popularization effort and the answers are simple enough for the most ignorant climate skeptic to understand.
1) The first question you raise is: Can variations in solar activity explain the current "average" warming? The term "average" is very important. Local climate fluctuations give us only a very incomplete picture of the situation. I remember Trump mocking global warming when a cold snap crippled every Great Lakes state: Even though this cooling at high latitudes was a direct consequence of global warming by the southward shift of the polar vortex. Many articles, easy to read, explain the consequences of the shifting of the polar vortex
But… let’s answer the question about solar influence. This NASA article provides the most remarkable proof that it is not the solar activity of recent years that is causing global warming but the increase in the rate of CO2 in the atmosphere: “If the Sun were driving Earth's warming, one would expect to see that upper atmosphere getting increasingly hot. Instead, measurements show the lower atmosphere is getting hotter, while the upper atmosphere is getting cooler. Instead, this matches the fingerprint of changes driven by increases in carbon dioxide much more closely. »
2) Your second Note says that we see that the CO2 level has changed in the past and that it was much more important several million years before, so… why worry?
First of all, homo sapiens only appeared 300,000 years ago and he was able to develop, especially agriculture, thanks to the stability of the climate, and it is precisely this climate that we break down at high speed. The most important point in this matter is the rate of change in the rate of CO2 in the atmosphere. Its variation has been exponential since roughly the industrial era
This diagram is interesting because it shows us the last ice age which ended 10,000 years ago. We think that there may be a relationship between CO2 levels and “average” temperature. And it's true: We see that during the last ice age between -100,000 years and -10,000 years ago, the average temperature was about 5 degrees lower than the average interglacial temperature of the Halocene. 5°C is not much! And all the north was covered with ice:
We have already taken 1°C in the twentieth century, the +1.5°C sung by politicians, no one believes it, anyway whatever we do we will have more than +1.5°C, effects being cumulative, and according to the efforts made by humanity we will perhaps limit warming to 3°C or 4°C.
-5°C ice everywhere, +4°C or +5°C = deserts or areas so humid and hot that they are uninhabitable. And according to NASA already with this rise in average temperatures some regions of the world will no longer be habitable: South Asia, the Persian Gulf (Iran, Oman, Kuwait), the countries bordering the Red Sea (Egypt, Saudi Arabia , Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, Yemen), eastern China and part of Brazil as well as several American states: Arkansas, Missouri and Iowa.
But where are these efforts to limit CO2 emissions? Germany just replaces its nuclear power with renewables without reducing its use of coal, fuels for air transport are not taxed, industries are denationalized to the most polluting countries, etc.
We could also talk about the phenomena of retroactivity which reinforce global warming at the North Pole, the craters which appear in the permafrost and an even greater danger which threatens humanity as we live in the very short term, a danger of which you probably do not suspect the catastrophic scope, it will lead to the end of democracies and disturbances without common measure since the modern era. It is a reality that we will all experience, it is simple, inevitable, unstoppable, it is the end of oil …
I purposely sent information from back in time, as they were saying at that time that the Arctic see would a little later back then already be ice free. That didn't happen so far as far as I know, false predictions get a lot of people to stop believing what is said about climate change.
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I see that you have made the effort to document yourself unlike others who just say that global warming is bull**** and propaganda. Moreover, your reference is most serious. NASA makes a notable popularization effort and the answers are simple enough for the most ignorant climate skeptic to understand. {quote cut short}
Assuming these observations of rising CO2 levels and how they cause climate change are correct, then the question arises how to solve the problem properly. Right now leaders claim to do something about it, but often they only make things even worse on a global level.
During several decades CO2 emissions were much higher in developed countries than they are now, due to improved engines and production methods. Far more effective global reduction of CO2 emissions can be obtained from countries like India and China. When you stop producing things in Europe to reduce CO2 emissions locally then that may seem great, but when people instead buy those things made in India and China, then those things get produced with higher CO2 emissions, combined with the higher CO2 emissions due to transportation.
When governments would actualy care about the environment then they would focus on reducing fuel conumption by container ships. To increase the production of consumer goods locally (with cleaner modern production techniques) would be much wiser on a global level. Right now all these giant container ships burn massive amounts of heavy fuel oil. Besides that, in the Netherlands there is a practice of adding chemical waste to fuel for ships, making it worthwhile for big ships to travel large distances extra to fuel up. The government knows about it: https://open.overheid.nl/documenten/ronl-c270ff223eb1e02e1de6354af557c9c894a996c3/pdf
Getting rid of cars running on fossile fuel sounds great as well, yet when you look at the total picture of producing batteries for electrical cars (using a lot of metals like cobalt, which gets produced at very high environmental costs), the environmental problems caused by these batteries causing fires, as well as the higher environmental costs of discarding old electrical cars, then currently it appears wiser to me to continue using well produced cars running on fossile fuel while these problems with electrical cars (that most people needing a car cannot even afford) have not been fixed properly. For example, the recent big fire on a ship carrying lots of cars North of the Netherlands probably was caused by the battery in an electrical car.
Another thing is that airplanes burn lots of kerosine high up in the air, directly depositing CO2 in the layers of air that cause a lot of the greene house effect. That is far more damaging than taking fast electromagnetic trains or even going by car. People should be encouraged to take trains instead of planes, as long as they are this poluting. Right now flying is cheaper, partly due to subsidies on kerosine.
Then there is the issue of the practice of burning down mostly tropical forests. Not only does the burning add to CO2 levels, but it has massively dropped the CO2 consumption by plants around the world. Again, when governments would actually care about the environment then they would put a lot more effort on (re)planting forests. Right now Europe buys trees from the U.S. for producing ‘clean’ electricity, while in China there is a practice of painting mountains green.
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