Option to add a Numista N# at zeno.ru

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Hello,

 

I noticed that zeno.ru now allows to add a Numista N#  to the coin descriptions. 

It seems to be quite great addition, so I'd like to mention it here and ask to use it (to promote Numista, in particular). 

Also I'd like to ask whether it is a part of some cooperation between the 2 websites? Shall we expect any other developments?

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Hello Grinya,

I'm in discussion with Peter from World of Coins and Vladimir from Zeno, and we are exploring possible collaboration actions. It would be great if more Zeno pictures could be linked to Numista, and I'm also looking at how to link Numista pages to Zeno pictures.

Great to hear!

 

I put in comments links to zeno's coins categories or to the search results on zeno for the Golden Horde coins. <aybe we can add this approach to some kind of “Best practices” chapter in Guidelines for the Numista catalogue (or at least change the “Avoid external links” recommendation):)

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Great news!

Xavier

Hello Grinya,

I'm in discussion with Peter from World of Coins and Vladimir from Zeno, and we are exploring possible collaboration actions. It would be great if more Zeno pictures could be linked to Numista, and I'm also looking at how to link Numista pages to Zeno pictures.

 

Great idea.

 

I have been uploading photos of some of my banknotes, coins, & postal orders up on here;

 

https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=all&ppuser=1635 .

 

Yes, ‘BCNumismatics’ is also my user name on there as well.

 

Aidan.

Zeno, top source for coins from Tibet!!!

Zeno numbers should be available to add as a reference.

Zeno numbers refer to an exact coin, not to the coin type. It would be unreasonable to add 100 zeno numbers to one coin type in Numista catalog

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

Grinya

Zeno numbers refer to an exact coin, not to the coin type. It would be unreasonable to add 100 zeno numbers to one coin type in Numista catalog

Fact.

 

Was just thinking about so many coins with none reference but they can easily be found on Zeno. 

 

Even I added some using only  a link to zeno as reference.

Grinya

Zeno numbers refer to an exact coin, not to the coin type. It would be unreasonable to add 100 zeno numbers to one coin type in Numista catalog

 

You are so right there.

 

Zeno numbers are not actually catalogue numbers, but indicating the order in which a photo has been uploaded onto Zeno.

 

Aidan.

World of Coins (WoC) already has a good number of cross-references to Zeno and Numista. These cross-references (xrefs) give you an instant connection to the other two sites. Just search  Numista on WoC.

 

The more xrefs there are in Numista, a catalogue site, the more you can enjoy the  information on WoC and Zeno. Apart from saving you the time to find a match, the xrefs give you important extra information. WoC is a discussion site. The discussions may just be a tame id, or they may yield historical background or lateral connections, e.g a thread to coastal and inland vessels  on coins, which, through the board index, can lead you to a list of classical era ships on coins. Zeno is a data base. It may well have multiple listings of a coin. This is of vital interest for struck Asian coins, as their flans are normally smaller than the dies. Multiple pictures can help you reconstruct the die. 

 

The key to all these goodies is having xrefs that work three ways in both directions and the key to having xrefs is YOU.

An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Grinya

Zeno numbers refer to an exact coin, not to the coin type. It would be unreasonable to add 100 zeno numbers to one coin type in Numista catalog

I have practical experience with adding the xrefs. The site has few listings of modern coins, so you will find few if any listings of those. You will find multiple listings of older coins, but I can't remember finding more than around 10 listings of a type/date/mint combination, let alone 100. 

 

The problem may be what you call “type”.  On screwed and hammered coins, this is a vague concept, as dies were hand-cut and not hardened, so many dies, each cut individually, were needed each year and I haven't even started about mules. 

 

As an illustration, if a Roman coin is die-identical with another, this is considered as a sign that the coins may well be modern fakes. Maybe even clearer: among the “forced currency” of Muhammad bin Tughluq, sultan of Dehli there are a good number of underweight specimen. These were long taken as contemporary counterfeits, but the communis opinio is now acknowledging that they are more likely to be coins struck in provincial mints, where quality control was less strict. So are they another type?

An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.

Numista is now becoming interwebsiteal lol

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