Request to create a new issuer.

Hello, good evening, I'm asking for the creation of a new issuer: New Zealand - Colonial.
A long time always looking at the issuer "New Zealand", many 19th century coins are still without Ruling Authorities. (the following coins are in the link at the end of the post).
The time has come to ask to put them in order, and I ask for the creation of a separate issuer, "New Zealand - Colonial", which is fully in line with the times when New Zealand, like Australia, were colonies of the United Kingdom . The coins are practically similar, the new issuer would be in the equivalence of the existing "Australia - Colonial", both are close countries, with an almost similar history as to the period of minting in the colonial era!

Coins for the new issuer "New Zealand - Colonial":
-https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=nouvelle-zelande&r=&ct=coin&im1=&im2=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&cat=y&ru=missing&ca=3&no=&v=&i=&b=&d=&u=&a=&dg=&m=&f=&t=&w=&mt=&g=&se=&c=&wi=&sw=

Other research references:
- https://www.rbnz.govt.nz/notes-and-coins/coins/history-of-new-zealand-coinage
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_of_New_Zealand

Coins from Australia - Colonial for comparison and inspiration for creating the issuer:
- https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?e=australia_colonial&r=&ct=coin&im1=&im2=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&cat=y&ru=missing&ca=3&no=&v=&i=&b=&d=&u=&a=&dg=&m=&f=&t=&w=&mt=&g=&se=&c=&wi=&sw=

Thank you all! And so we are always studying and improving the Numista website.

It's slowly getting out of hand this issuer business.... what is the purpose really? To teach us all a bit of history, which you cannot remember, because there are too many issuers and too many rulers over too many years.

According to this https://blog.tepapa.govt.nz/2017/03/30/makeshift-money-tokens-in-the-te-papa-collection/ they should be rather moved to Tokens.

This seems a lot like my request (in a separate thread) for United States Hard Time Tokens. These trade tokens should all be categorized  similarly.

This seems a lot like my request (separate  thread) for Hard Time Tokens. These trade token shkuld all be categorized  together.

The ½ & 1 Penny currency tokens circulated as coins in New Zealand - & they definitely qualify for listing under ‘Colony of New Zealand’ - Queen Victoria.

 

Krause lists them like the Australian ones.

 

Aidan.

So they are equal to notgeld?

Jarcek

So they are equal to notgeld?

 

Notgeld came in during World War I.

 

These currency tokens are very popular with coin collectors here in New Zealand - &, yes, I do collect them, as they are, in a sense, New Zealand's first coins.

 

Aidan.

By equal, I meant by usage - that is country wide usage and acceptance.

BCNumismatics

Notgeld came in during World War I.

Notgeld is just the German word for ‘emergency money’ or ‘need’ money if you want to use the nearest etymological word.

 

The first siege certificates issued were those from the time of the siege of the Spanish fortress of Alhama by the Moors in 1483.

Then we have siege coins and at the end of the 18th century became more prolific with the French assignats etc.

Hello,

 

I will reject this request for now. We are discussing the fate of privately issued tokens in the coin catalogue, because right now, we are having double standards for them, some of them being in coins and some in exonumia.

 

Best regards,

Jarek

Jarcek

Hello,

 

I will reject this request for now. We are discussing the fate of privately issued tokens in the coin catalogue, because right now, we are having double standards for them, some of them being in coins and some in exonumia.

 

Best regards,

Jarek

 

 

The New Zealand currency tokens are listed in Krause & in the local banknote & coin catalogue.

 

To me, they should be under ‘Coins’.

 

Aidan.

BCNumismatics

The New Zealand currency tokens are listed in Krause & in the local banknote & coin catalogue.

 

To me, they should be under ‘Coins’.

 

Aidan.

I use Krause extensively. In most cases it is my primary reference. But “Krause says so” it a terrible way to make decisions as there are many inconsistencies.

 

But if you do want to follow Krause I'd suggest the appropriate way is to place KM# Tn issues in Exonumia.

I wish the referees luck in coming up with an easy to understand and consistent guideline for splitting between Coins, Banknotes, and Exonumia.

bjherbison

BCNumismatics

The New Zealand currency tokens are listed in Krause & in the local banknote & coin catalogue.

 

To me, they should be under ‘Coins’.

 

Aidan.

I use Krause extensively. In most cases it is my primary reference. But “Krause says so” it a terrible way to make decisions as there are many inconsistencies.

 

But if you do want to follow Krause I'd suggest the appropriate way is to place KM# Tn issues in Exonumia.

I wish the referees luck in coming up with an easy to understand and consistent guideline for splitting between Coins, Banknotes, and Exonumia.

 

Not a good idea to put the currency tokens from New Zealand under ‘Exonumia’ - considering the Australian ones are listed under ‘Coins’, as are some of the British & Irish ones.

 

Aidan.