Foreign imitation - Edward I Type penny [solved]

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Anyone help with this please. Monarch's name looks like "IOhA...." or "IORA"? Cannot decipher mint name.

Diam: 18mm Weight: 1.01g



Many thanks,

Kevin Brown
Robert BROWN
IOHANNES / Johannes / John
Such as the lettering on this coin >
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces309695.html
Low countries feudal › Brabant, Duchy of
John of Leuven, Lord of Herstal
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
No idea if that is the same coin as yours - just worked out the first name.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
On the long cross side, two of the quarters may have MON and ETA lettering,
for MONETA meaning money. Not sure about the others six letters - but ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces96109.html
they could be MER and AVD perhaps - like in that coin.
Translation: Mint of Méraude

Country: Luxembourg
Denomination: Esterlin
Pictured: Jean the Blind
Years: 1309-1346

Maybe. :)
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Something like this >

where I started with straight lines for those fairly visible (orange) letters then
within all that added modern lettering - plus unsure (green) letters.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Not much lettering readable on obverse - but at top with the fancy cross -
there is that IOH lettering after it, there is a B before it, like on that coin.
So I reckon that is what your coin is - around 700 years ago from Luxembourg.
:wiz:
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Definitely the right one!
There are a number of subtypes with different obverse legends, but I think we can see IOhAES ..... EX B, which looks like @ZacUK's attribution.

There were official issues imitating the design of English pennies all over the Low Countries and parts of Feudal France. If I am not mistaken, Brabant, Flanders, Hainaut, Luxembourg, Namur, Lorraine and some other places all issued coins like this. We have many of them in the catalog.
Very many thanks ZacUK and tdziemia for your interest and coments.
Most useful and a new area of learning opens up!

Many thanks once again

Kevin
Robert BROWN
Status changed to Solved (ZacUK, 9 Feb 2022, 16:19)

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