Tunisia - 5 Centimes - Muhammad V - variety 1339 1920 [solved]

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hello!
please help me.
recently received this coin
I found this coin in the catalog - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4911.html


Haiti 5 Centimes for size comparison (19.9 mm)

weight 2.83 g (3 g in the catalog)
diameter 19.4 mm (19 mm in the catalog)
thickness 1.4 mm (1.5 mm in the catalog)

there are already photos of such a coin in the comments, but it is not in the table of years.

when i tried to add this combination of years i saw the message: "The list of years is complete and has been verified. Most requests to add new year entries are sent for the wrong coin type. If you are sure you own this coin with a date that is not listed here, you can ask to have it added through the forum and include a picture of your coin in your message."

here I am writing. what to do next?

best regards,
omant
Given there's an image of this coin in the comments and SCWC doesn't list a 1339 (1921), can I suggest that the line 1339 (1921) be modified to 1339 (1920)?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Quote: "ceh2019"​Given there's an image of this coin in the comments and SCWC doesn't list a 1339 (1921), can I suggest that the line 1339 (1921) be modified to 1339 (1920)?
​only the owners can say
Given that the smaller version of the 5 centimes was also issued in 1339 (1920), it seems unlikely the larger piece continued into 1921. If we change the year line to what we know to exist, then if someone actually has a 1339 (1921) coin, they can post an image and we can add it. Otherwise, we'll be stuck with a year line we can't verify. A quick Google search brings up no hits other than Numista for Tunisia, 5 centimes, 1921.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
It's an error in Numista, KM have these:




Your's seems to be the larger type with 19 mm in diameter.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Agreed. Does anyone know what is meant by 1338/6 and 1338/7 in KM? We've got 6 and 7 as mint letters, which seems odd.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Quote: "ceh2019"​Agreed. Does anyone know what is meant by 1338/6 and 1338/7 in KM? We've got 6 and 7 as mint letters, which seems odd.
​Overdate. 1388/6 means an 8 has been minted on top of a 6 and so on!
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
That was what I would have thought from KM but having them listed as "mint letters" made me wonder. Seems this page needs a bit of work. Unfortunately, there isn't a referee listed for Tunisian coins, so I'm afraid one of the admins is going to have to sort this out. Thanks to omant for spotting the problem.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Where would the 6 come from? There is no 5 centimes from 1336 in that form.
It's a fair point. Are there any images of these types?
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Quote: "Idolenz"​Where would the 6 come from? There is no 5 centimes from 1336 in that form.
​Well seen, and it can not be a reign year either. There is an image of a 5 centimes 1920 - 1339 (torch) here:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4911.html
in the comments section, but I cannot see any 6 or 7 numerals of any kind. I've also tried to count berries and dots in the writings, so far nothing found....
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
The values in SCWC vs. the frequencies on the Numista page make no sense. I spent 1/2 hour on ebay and couldn't fine any overdates of this coin listed. ٨/٦ or ٨/٧ should be pretty obvious.
To me it looks like an error i SCWC, taken over by numista. I have just stopped investigating further (searching for all images of 5 centimes 1338 1920 with the torch finding none). RSIRIAN1 has covered the searches for overdates, so that's it, until somebody more clever shows up.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
btw...I also was keeping an eye out for a 1339 (1921) and saw none but plenty of 1339 (1920).

I fixed the wrong year, but a word about those 6/7 - on french side, they are clearly marked as overdates in the line comments.

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Jarcek

I fixed the wrong year, but a word about those 6/7 - on french side, they are clearly marked as overdates in the line comments.

Speaking of the French side, they also have Sec (Monnaies et jetons des colonies françaises) catalog reference numbers for all year lines except the ١٣٣٨/٦ and ١٣٣٨/٧ overdates.

I have just submitted this CR:

and as well I have asked to have the year lines changed without mentioning (torch) since it's general for all the years for this type.

 

My only question is if it's OK to describe the Reverse as I did?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

You can't use “cornucopia” and “torch” in a shared field like lettering.

As I thought, but how to do it then? I see no other way, but I'm listening.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Put it in the Description field or just in the Comments?

Ok, I have done it like this (no change in Reverse) only in comments:

 

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Done ✌️👍

Best Regards,

Amraan Amjad

Numista Referee for Coins of Kingdom of Bahrain, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Republic of Tunisia & Kingdom of Morocco
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