andrewdotcoza
Joined: 29 Sep 2013
Posted: 30 Jan 2022, 23:43
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Posted: 30 Jan 2022, 23:43
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30 Jan 2022, 23:44
Hi Everyone
My request involves this coin:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1655.html
According to the coin page, the small-flower version of the coin was made from 1989 until 2004 and the large-flower version from 2005 until 2011.
I have found in my collection that I have both a small-flower and a large-flower version of the 2005 coin, as per the following pictures. There are also small reverse die differences. These are specifically visible in the central star of the reverse design.
Please could we create a second 2005 line for the small-flower variant of the 2005 coin.
Many Thanks,
Andrew.
peterjhalford Catalogue referee
Joined: 8 Aug 2017
Posted: 31 Jan 2022, 10:20
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Posted: 31 Jan 2022, 10:20
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Hopefully a comment can go in the comments section with the appropriate edit by variety king: Sjoelund
Status changed to Accepted
(Jarcek , 27 May 2022, 21:50)
Jarcek Numista team
Joined: 22 Dec 2014
Posted: 27 May 2022, 21:51
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Posted: 27 May 2022, 21:51
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Just messaged the referee about this.
Catalogue administrator
Status changed to Started
(Jarcek , 27 May 2022, 21:51)
Linketake42 Catalogue referee
Joined: 16 Oct 2015
Posted: 27 May 2022, 23:05
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Posted: 27 May 2022, 23:05
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Thank you, I believe there are transitional types as you have identified, my Malaysian coin guide only dates up to 1991, so not sure if it is recognized in the books. Approved the request, as visually we can see it.
Status changed to Done
(Jarcek , 27 May 2022, 23:23)
Murf
Joined: 4 Sep 2023
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 00:15
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 00:15
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Hi.. There are two types in 2007 also small and big flower..
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 16:18
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 16:18
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What do you think?
Comments are welcome
Ole
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peterjhalford Catalogue referee
Joined: 8 Aug 2017
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 17:30
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 17:30
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Is it better to measure the distance from the legend to the flower?
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 17:43
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 17:43
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not a lot…
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Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
rsirian1
Joined: 20 Nov 2020
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:00
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:00
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Sjoelund
What do you think?
Comments are welcome
Ole
I think I don't see a difference.
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:11
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:11
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On the “big flower” not so much, on the inner flower, yes.
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rsirian1
Joined: 20 Nov 2020
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:20
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:20
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Maybe a small difference:
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:23
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:23
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The OP will decide, for me it's just a maybe yes, maybe not, but for the small flower in the center of the other side, there is no doubt?
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rsirian1
Joined: 20 Nov 2020
Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:27
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Posted: 13 Sep 2023, 21:27
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Yes. Maybe. Sometimes it's hard to tell what due to wear and lighting on the picture and what's really different. Always better to compare UNC of the different coins (if you have them).
andrewdotcoza
Joined: 29 Sep 2013
Posted: 14 Sep 2023, 01:06
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14 Sep 2023, 07:39
Sjoelund
The OP will decide, for me it's just a maybe yes, maybe not, but for the small flower in the center of the other side, there is no doubt?
Hi Ole! Thank you for making an excellent image.
For me, the most consistent way of distinguishing the small and large flowers is to draw a vertical line that touches the tip of the left-most leaf. For the small flower it will intersect the “N” of “NEGARA” exactly on the corner. For the large flower, it will intersect a little to the left of the corner of the “N”.
Murf
Joined: 4 Sep 2023
Posted: 14 Sep 2023, 03:59
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Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 14 Sep 2023, 10:04
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Posted: 14 Sep 2023, 10:04
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HI Murf,
very impressive images, thanks for sharing.
A ruler is not a very accurate tool, try get hold of an electronic caliper with two decimals
If you could send me or publish your images here, without your ruler and arrows, it would be helpful to study, if it's the same variant.
Thank you
Ole
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Murf
Joined: 4 Sep 2023
Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 04:44
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Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 10:14
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Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 10:14
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Which variety has the long “MALAYSIA” on the edge?
Thanks for the images.
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rsirian1
Joined: 20 Nov 2020
Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 14:40
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Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 17:52
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Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 17:52
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I couldn't incorporate the different edges, since Murf didn't tell me!
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rsirian1
Joined: 20 Nov 2020
Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 18:06
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Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 18:06
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Remove the “Arrows from small flower” comment.
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 18:29
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Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 18:29
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Will do. Copy paste in all its glory….
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Sjoelund
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Posted: 15 Sep 2023, 18:52
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Murf
Joined: 4 Sep 2023
Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 02:45
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Sjoelund
Which variety has the long “MALAYSIA” on the edge?
Thanks for the images.
The Large flower or Centre Flower Cut-in is the one with long Malaysia on the edge
Sjoelund
Joined: 28 Mar 2012
Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 10:36
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Posted: 17 Sep 2023, 10:36
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Here is the version with the 3rd side of the coins incorporated
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