San Marino 5 Lire 1898 real or fake?

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Julka
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Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 19:05 #
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Dear Numista community,
I’ve found this coin and am not sure whether it’s real or fake. It’s 37mm and 23.3g

I’d appreciate your opinions.
thanks in advance!
Essor Prof Catalogue referee
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Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 19:44 #
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The original one has denticals while yours has a beaded border:


Mr. Midnight Catalogue referee
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Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 12:45 #
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8% underweight is bad.
Is it silver?

I do not like the dirt and wire-brush marks.
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Julka
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Posted: 30 Jan 2022, 10:07 #
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Looks quite silverish to me… I tried chalk on it and it went black and it gets warm very easily, but I’m definitely not an expert. I also took pictures with better light.
Mr. Midnight Catalogue referee
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Posted: 30 Jan 2022, 18:10 #
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I don't like it. looks like intentional aging and distressing techniques.
why would a coin like that get raked through hot ashes?
I could be wrong, that would be a prize if real.
If real its worth $300. so pay $30 and have it authenticated.
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cobrapel Catalogue referee
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Posted: 2 Feb 2022, 22:19 #
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It is an ugly fake. You can understand by rims and borders, also weight is out
Julka
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Posted: 3 Feb 2022, 11:54 #
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Thanks all, sad that it's not real. My next question would be whether it's a modern fake or an older one?
Mr. Midnight Catalogue referee
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Posted: 3 Feb 2022, 12:22 #
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modern. made in china.
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Julka
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Posted: 3 Feb 2022, 14:05 #
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Quote: "Mr. Midnight"​modern. made in china.
​Ok, ok, the only thing left for you to ruin my day is to call me fat :)
Mr. Midnight Catalogue referee
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Posted: 3 Feb 2022, 16:42 #
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Quote: "Julka"​
Quote: "Mr. Midnight"​modern. made in china.
​​Ok, ok, the only thing left for you to ruin my day is to call me fat :)
​sorry mate.
you can maybe take solace in knowing that all of us have learned about this stuff the hard way.
part of the game, Im sorry to say.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
Julka
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Posted: 3 Feb 2022, 16:45 #
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Quote: "Mr. Midnight"​
Quote: "Julka"​
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Quote: "Mr. Midnight"​modern. made in china.
​​​Ok, ok, the only thing left for you to ruin my day is to call me fat :)
​​sorry mate.
​you can maybe take solace in knowing that all of us have learned about this stuff the hard way.
​part of the game, Im sorry to say.
​
Ah, it's no big deal, I found it in the 10 kg of coins my BF got me on some local website so not much damage done, just got too excited for a couple of days.​
loruca
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Posted: 7 Feb 2022, 15:49 #
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Would you mind giving us an edge view of that coin, or telling us what lettering is engrailed on it?
Purely for curiosity's sake, it I certainly fake.
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
Julka
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Posted: 7 Feb 2022, 16:21 #
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Quote: "loruca"​Would you mind giving us an edge view of that coin, or telling us what lettering is engrailed on it?
​Purely for curiosity's sake, it I certainly fake.
​I gave it to my daughter to play with so it's lost somewhere in the apartment. But it said: * FERT * FERT * FERT * which is funny because this coin came in a pile with https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2290.html which is actually supposed to have such an edge and both ended up being fake.
loruca
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Posted: 7 Feb 2022, 16:22 #
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Quote: "Julka"​
Quote: "loruca"​Would you mind giving us an edge view of that coin, or telling us what lettering is engrailed on it?
​​Purely for curiosity's sake, it I certainly fake.
​​I gave it to my daughter to play with so it's lost somewhere in the apartment. But it said: * FERT * FERT * FERT * which is funny because this coin came in a pile with https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2290.html which is actually supposed to have such an edge and both ended up being fake.
​Ah yeah, that's what I expected! Classic fake edge!
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
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