Suggestion: "news page" for new discoveries

New variants continue to be discovered and it would be neat if we had a page listing new variant additions to numista on a separate page or perhaps a small box on the main page.

Getting information about new variants, mint errors or previously unknown subtypes is at the heart of this hobby. Imagine the joy of going through your collection every once in a while, to double check.

The only other way of collecting this information would be to comb through the forums, but not every request gets accepted and it's otherwise tiresome this way. I strongly suggest adding this feature.

An additional thought: Numista should be proud of all the discoveries its users have made, or added to this database. It's a shame that such knowledge gets hidden in the subforum. Numista, be proud of yourself! We have surpassed Krause's catalogue in so many ways, it's time to celebrate it by directing more attention to these hidden gems collected by the community.

It sounds nice, but it's impossible. Heaven knows I like variants, as you might have noticed, but actually I never know, if my finding is a "new" variant or just a "known", but never described variant!

I discovered today a site through a friend RSIRIAN1 summing up some variants of US mint marks on the 1 cent coins, but none of those are of any "common" interest to numista collectors, so in our opinion they should ABSOLUTELY NOT be cluddering our numista year lines.

http://varietyvista.com/02b%20LC%20RPMs%20Vol%202/RPMs%201968S.htm

Have a look and enjoy.

If you want more unuseable variants have a look here
http://www.coinerrors.nz/coins
you'll find hundreds of different "varieties" which are not considered as such by numista, and again lucky enough!

Quote: "nucleus"​An additional thought: Numista should be proud of all the discoveries its users have made, or added to this database. It's a shame that such knowledge gets hidden in the subforum. Numista, be proud of yourself! We have surpassed Krause's catalogue in so many ways, it's time to celebrate it by directing more attention to these hidden gems collected by the community.

​Which subforum?

I used to be a contributor to Krause and it was a decision of not being able to find the space to show and document all the "varieties" which kind of stopped us reporting them to KM.

In numista there is no such thing as a search for varieties, you only find them in the different "Comment sections" of a given coin, but you only find them, if you visit the .html site of searched coin!

Quote: "Sjoelund"​It sounds nice, but it's impossible. Heaven knows I like variants, as you might have noticed, but actually I never know, if my finding is a "new" variant or just a "known", but never described variant!
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​I discovered today a site through a friend RSIRIAN1 summing up some variants of US mint marks on the 1 cent coins, but none of those are of any "common" interest to numista collectors, so in our opinion they should ABSOLUTELY NOT be cluddering our numista year lines.
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​http://varietyvista.com/02b%20LC%20RPMs%20Vol%202/RPMs%201968S.htm
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​Have a look and enjoy.
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​If you want more unuseable variants have a look here
​http://www.coinerrors.nz/coins
​you'll find hundreds of different "varieties" which are not considered as such by numista, and again lucky enough!
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​Thank you for your input! I think I should have phrased it differently. I'm not very fond of mint errors myself, and I agree that listing all of them is silly. Just look at the varietyvista.com you linked to. Getting mesmerized by the position of the "S" is just absolutely silly.

What I'm talking about are actual design differences, intentional changes which were made by the original artists. For instance, do you remember our joint project from last year? https://en.numista.com/catalogue/images/6156c32b6c5a4.jpg

this is a rather obvious, intentional variant and not a minting accident. This variant was previously unknown to most non-greek collectors.
These obvious variants should be showcased.

So let me rephrase: No mint errors, but what about actual collectible variants?

I do remember our one time cooperation, thanks, it was a pleasure.

I once suggested (many years ago) to add a field to all year lines, just called "variant" and if filled with a "y", then you could click on it and see the corresponding documentation. Suggestion overruled by Xavier, since too complicated to implement, I think, so since then I've given up the hope...

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Quote: "nucleus"​An additional thought: Numista should be proud of all the discoveries its users have made, or added to this database. It's a shame that such knowledge gets hidden in the subforum. Numista, be proud of yourself! We have surpassed Krause's catalogue in so many ways, it's time to celebrate it by directing more attention to these hidden gems collected by the community.

​​Which subforum?
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​I used to be a contributor to Krause and it was a decision of not being able to find the space to show and document all the "varieties" which kind of stopped us reporting them to KM.
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​In numista there is no such thing as a search for varieties, you only find them in the different "Comment sections" of a given coin, but you only find them, if you visit the .html site of searched coin!

​I meant the subforum for suggested changes.

I think you misunderstood me. Searching for variants would mean an enormous overhaul of the site which would be a crazy thing to ask for.
I meant adding something like a feed to the main page, with links to coin pages that have been updated with variants. Something similar to an RSS feed. Something like this:

2022-01-22 New variant added to United Kingdom 1 Penny - Victoria
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces670.html

Is there any program out there (except the one like Mr. Sjoelund) which compares multiple pictures at the same time of same coins (obv/rev) and searches for differences?

Quote: "mikimaus"​Is there any program out there (except the one like Mr. Sjoelund) to compare multiple pictures at the time of same coins (obv/rev) for differences?
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​Yes, it can be done with photoscape (free software) if you set up a gif.....

Thanks, will try it out...

Quote: "mikimaus"​Thanks, will try it out...

Don't forget, the animated gif made with PhotoScape compares the coins but the search for differences you have to do yourself. So I'm not sure if this is what you've meant. Example:

of course I should have mentioned, the human brain is still on top of the chain

Hi
What I meant was like feeding 50 pics of one side of the coin to the program and it spits out a picture if something is really off with most of them.
LP

That doesn't exist yet, as far as I know.

I discovered a new variant of soviet kopecks (1961-1991) I thought about adding it to numista, but I asked myself: why even care? nobody cares about amazing discoveries here, apart from our good friend Sjoelund.

I think numista is perfectly fine with being frozen in time and just making that sweet ad money. Really disheartening. But I won't take effort to add my research on variants to numista, because site owners think of variants as an annoying chore, and not as the wonderful thing they are.

New variants are always welcome in the comments section concerning the coin, but they don't always deserve a year line! Many of my "discoveries" are just documented, but have no year lines. The year line is not so important, but the documentation and sharing of knowledge is. That's how we all learn more about our fascinating hobby. Many collectors don't care for variants, but we are still quite a few appreciating them a lot, so please share with us

In this case I'll never find out if I already have the coin you're referring to, except if you share your findings here or by PM. That would be a shame, if you don't think it's worth sharing. So please share

Hi
You two champs (N&S), try looking into the 1982 Mexican 20 Peso coin (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces987.html), which has on the edge two different font types (small and big) - none currently defined on Numista => but clearly two different types. Both texts are the same, just that the smaller text is slightly extended with regard to the big one => when put together, vertically letters don't align. And also if that is of any interest, all year variants have edge lettering readable both with obverse looking up and down.
I do not have the technics to take such fine edge pictures. Knock your self out .
LP

Quote: "mikimaus"​Hi
​You two champs (N&S), try looking into the 1982 Mexican 20 Peso coin (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces987.html), which has on the edge two different font types (small and big) - none currently defined on Numista => but clearly two different types. Both texts are the same, just that the smaller text is slightly extended with regard to the big one => when put together, vertically letters don't align. And also if that is of any interest, all year variants have edge lettering readable both with obverse looking up and down.
​I do not have the technics to take such fine edge pictures. Knock your self out .
​LP

​Unfortunately I only had ONE 1982 in my collection and it is with large writing. I found that the 1980 has a smaller writing, so I could put up this documentation. Of course it only can show a type variant, and not a real year variant, since I need to see the large AND small writing on the same year.... Now if you can swear that you have that on the 1982 coin, then I can change the documentation to a year variant?

So the ball is in your camp.

Hi
I am sending the ball to the middle.
The word "INDEPENDENCIA" is vertically perfectly aligned with each letter, but things go south with letter Y and even more with "LIBERTAD". Also thickness of the big letter variant is 2,55 mm, while the other one with small letters is 2,4 mm.


LP

Hi,

the question of the two varieties really found on two 1982 coins is still open. The differences are clear I just want to make sure you have the two variant on 2 different 1982 coins?

Take care
Ole

Sorry Nucleus,

I should have started with yours! Here is a documentation of the 1963 kopeck



What do you think? Do we have the right to use the images, did you check? If yes, please tell our aministrators, that we have the permission to use the contents of their site.

I will not do any further before I know, if it's OK.

Take care
Ole

Coming back to 20 pesos coin from Mexico. ALL my coins km486 have small edge letterings EXCEPT the 1982, but does the 1982 also have a small lettering version?

Quote: "Sjoelund"​Coming back to 20 pesos coin from Mexico. ALL my coins km486 have small edge letterings EXCEPT the 1982, but does the 1982 also have a small lettering version?
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​It does.

So here is the 1982 year variant. Your images of the edge were better than mine!!!!

If you want to you can take it and make the CR.

If you decide to ask for two year lines, then "Small letters on edge" on one and "Large letters on edge".
If you decide it's enough to have it the "Comments section" then a text like this "Two edge varieties; see comments" will do.
Up to you!

Hi
Thank you for the work, but its yours and you should publish it. I am already having full hands on adding new stuff.
LP

Done, but you see, I'm also up to my ears....